[HN Gopher] Meat, milk alternatives could slash food system emis...
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Meat, milk alternatives could slash food system emissions a third:
study
Author : PaulHoule
Score : 27 points
Date : 2023-09-20 20:52 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| sentimentscan wrote:
| I much more prefer the tempeh to meat. (I have cut back only ti
| social occasions as I am a little bit addicted to taste/climate)
| I would to have more alternatives that are not trying to mimic
| meat/cheese, but traditional things or creative ones like
| tempeh/tofu/kimchi/all fermented.
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| Similarly instead of vegan burger/falafel there are amazing
| traditional cuisine like Shojin Ryori (vegan japanease cuisine)
| spondylosaurus wrote:
| Tofu in particular is an amazing, versatile ingredient with so
| many varieties and ways to prepare it (in western countries we
| barely scratch the surface)--if all you do with tofu is try to
| approximate meat, you're wasting its full potential!
| ktosobcy wrote:
| Sadly any diary alternatives are at best "meh"...
| puffyblogger wrote:
| [dead]
| myshpa wrote:
| > Replacing half of the pork, chicken, beef and milk products we
| consume with plant-based alternatives could reduce global
| greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture and related land use by
| nearly a third, and virtually halt forest loss, according to
| research published on Tuesday.
|
| Switching completely to plant-based diets could reduce greenhouse
| gas emissions by 16.5% [0], free up land equivalent to both
| Americas for reforestation [1], restore biodiversity [2], and
| repair the water cycle [3], preventing droughts. The current
| trend of an American-style diet would require five Earths to
| sustain the global population [4].
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| As developing nations become more affluent, transitioning to
| plant-based diets is crucial for sustainable food production.[5]
|
| Current (animal) agriculture is a leading driver of biodiversity
| loss [6], deforestation [7], water pollution [8], oceanic dead
| zones [9], and soil erosion [10]. It is the primary factor
| pushing us into ecological overshoot [11] and threatens our
| survival.[12]
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| [0]
| https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352100490_Emissions...
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| [1] https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2013/10/World-Map-by-
| Land...
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| [2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26231772/
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| [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biotic_pump
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| [4]
| https://css.umich.edu/publications/factsheets/sustainability...
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| [5] https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/917471
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| [6] https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/press-release/our-
| glob...
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| [7] https://ourworldindata.org/drivers-of-deforestation
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| [8] https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
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| [9] https://blogs.ubc.ca/makingwaves/2017/02/07/cows-pigs-and-
| po...
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| [10] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-
| of-...
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| [11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_overshoot
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| [12] https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/research-
| news/2...
| pipeline_peak wrote:
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| idontknoworcare wrote:
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| zeristor wrote:
| How much are the alternatives ultra processed foods?
| thot_experiment wrote:
| We've got impossible burgers which are honestly better than most
| real burgers, but it's there a viable alternative for my
| morning/mid morning/lunchtime/early afternoon/late
| afternoon/evening/nightcap (decaf) latte?
|
| edit: Oh wait I forgot about cheese, yeah life without milk is
| udderly untenable.
| DennisP wrote:
| Perfect Day has engineered yeast to make milk proteins. They're
| selling ice cream made of actual milk, produced from yeast.
| myshpa wrote:
| > (decaf) latte
|
| I'm running on regular coffee, no milk.
|
| > Oh wait I forgot about cheese
|
| Try https://www.vegancheese.co/discover - 1800+ plant based
| cheeses, perhaps one or two would satisfy your taste buds? :)
|
| > life without milk is udderly untenable
|
| I've missed yoghurt the most. Fortunately coconut milk based
| yoghurts are quite palatable.
|
| Sorry, I have to. Did you know that dairy is scary?
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI
| bexsella wrote:
| I've been looking for a decent replacement for milk for a long
| time, I've tried them all. Oat Milk is what I've finally
| settled on. Specifically the brand Oatly (which I believe is
| broadly available) for me has solved the overly oaty taste with
| their Barista Edition milk. I will say that it is still notably
| worse than cows milk, but to a degree I can personally live
| with. But I'd recommend maybe ordering an oat milk latte one
| day when you're feeling particularly adventurous and just
| seeing if the downgrade in taste is tenable for you.
|
| Cheese is a whole other kettle of fish, they're all awful.
| thatswrong0 wrote:
| Boursin's dairy-free cheese spread is a great alternative to
| cream cheese IMO (although you're kind of stuck with garlic &
| herbs flavor). Haven't quite found good alternatives to melty
| cheeses like cheddar though.
| ToDougie wrote:
| I prefer to eat meat. Staying away from common grains more and
| more over the past five years has really improved my overall
| health. My inflammation is reduced and all of my blood tests that
| I run twice+ a year are great. Lab grown meat seems like it might
| work some day, but the real thing seems to beat out any kind of
| vegan/vegetarian option for my own personal health outcomes.
| zolbrek wrote:
| Meat is great. Factory farming not so. I'd like to see
| governments subsidize farms where the livestock isn't
| maltreated and pumped full of who knows what.
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