[HN Gopher] Health risks of travel in early-modern Britain
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Health risks of travel in early-modern Britain
Author : Petiver
Score : 25 points
Date : 2023-09-20 04:53 UTC (18 hours ago)
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| A_D_E_P_T wrote:
| Travel is still risky. Automobile accidents are, by a substantial
| margin, the leading cause of death in young people.
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| It may have been somewhat more risky back then -- in terms of
| fatalities per mile traveled, if not fatalities per hour traveled
| -- but I don't think that's perfectly clear. A fall from a horse,
| which has happened to me more than once, is a lot less injurious
| than an automobile accident. It would be interesting to see a
| comparison table.
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| Besides, the risks didn't stop every enterprising English and
| Protestant German youth from embarking upon the Grand Tour:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Tour
| nugget wrote:
| I'm pretty sure the opioid epidemic is the leading cause of
| death in the US. Enormous numbers of Americans are dying from
| fentanyl and other poisons, but the media doesn't like to cover
| it and the Government doesn't like to talk about it.
| kunwon1 wrote:
| One might argue that a fall from a horse in the 17th century is
| more injurious than an automobile accident in the 21st
| AlbertCory wrote:
| we don't have much data for then, but we do have it for now.
| See my other comment.
| bbarnett wrote:
| A fall from a horse, with mild injury, was far more serious
| though.
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| No antibiotics, and geneally no operating for internal body
| cavity injuries.
| bemusedthrow75 wrote:
| s/enterprising/independently wealthy/
| [deleted]
| AlbertCory wrote:
| I don't have a dog in this fight, honest! /s
|
| but I got curious, so as a fun math exercise: go crazy!
| HORSES:
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| https://horsesonly.com/horse-riding-accidents/
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| > According to the research (2002) on horseback riding danger
| statistics, the rate of hospital admissions for equestrians is
| 11.8/1000 riders or, assuming one hour per day riding on
| average, 0.49/1000 hours of riding. (1)
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| > 7. 81% of equestrians get injured at some point in their
| riding career. CARS:
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| https://www.valuepenguin.com/car-accident-statistics#injurie...
|
| we have some numbers that don't quite compare:
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| >In 2020, Americans had a 1 in 63 chance of getting in a car
| accident.
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| > At least one driver or passenger is injured in 43% of car
| crashes. There were 2,282,015 injuries reported in 2020 --
| that's 6,252 per day, or four per minute.
| thmsths wrote:
| So cars are roughly 10 times safer than riding horses? And
| that's without accounting for the difference in distance
| travelled. The number of injuries for the car are
| staggeringly high because of how common they are. I bet if we
| enacted policies that made owning a horse as likely as owning
| a car, we would also find that every minutes a several horse
| riders get injured.
| A_D_E_P_T wrote:
| > So cars are roughly 10 times safer than riding horses?
|
| Well, all of that refers to injury -- which may be serious,
| but may also be very mild. A sprained ankle is an injury.
| Horseback riding is a lot like a contact sport; it's very
| easy to pick up musculoskeletal injuries from getting
| pulled or thrown (or kicked, which has also happened to me
| once,) but only a very small proportion of those lead to
| serious and lasting disability.
|
| If we look solely at fatalities, a different picture might
| emerge. Automobile injuries are, I surmise, more likely to
| be very serious or fatal. And, of course, motorcycles are
| in a different plane of existence entirely.
| pixl97 wrote:
| I would also make a guess that cars operated at the same
| speed (with current safety equipment) that cars would be
| closer to 100 times safer than horses. The entire velocity
| squared multiples quickly.
| thmsths wrote:
| I think so too. Motorcycles are the closest thing we have
| to a very fast horse and according to [1] they are 35
| times more likely to result in a fatal crash than a car.
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| [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_safety
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