[HN Gopher] Interpretation and analysis of songs written or perf...
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       Interpretation and analysis of songs written or performed by Pet
       Shop Boys
        
       Author : lstamour
       Score  : 86 points
       Date   : 2023-09-18 05:27 UTC (17 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.geowayne.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.geowayne.com)
        
       | AdmiralAsshat wrote:
       | I admire the guy's dedication in doing the analysis for each and
       | every song in the band's discography. Despite music's enduring
       | popularity, music "scholarship" seems pretty rare outside of the
       | odd coffee-table book.
       | 
       | I remember in the web 1.0 days, I used to browse similar sites
       | where fans would submit interpretations of lyrics from artists
       | like Tool or System of a Down. I miss those sites. Lyrics are
       | easier than ever to find online now, but not so much if you want
       | to figure out what the song actually means.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | jeppester wrote:
         | I've had good success with https://songmeanings.com/
        
         | Moomoomoo309 wrote:
         | They Might Be Giants has a fan wiki with all of that stuff,
         | aptly named "This Might Be a Wiki", which makes sense given the
         | kind of fans the band has.
        
           | pvaldes wrote:
           | Another super nerd, super original group, but in this case
           | with a much minor fanbase. Basically a minoritary cult group.
           | The TMBG wiki will deserve a look. Thanks
        
         | OfSanguineFire wrote:
         | Most lyric sites were ultimately supplanted by Genius, which
         | does allow users to annotate lyrics and explain what is meant.
         | Originally Genius was focused on hip-hop and its often arcane
         | lyrics, but it has long since expanded to every popular-music
         | genre. And before Genius there was songmeanings.com, which
         | contains a great deal of commentary on rock and pop which has
         | still not found its way to Genius.
         | 
         | With regard to music scholarship dealing with popular music
         | genres, there are popular book series like 33-1/3, scholarly
         | monograph series like Ashgate's Popular and Folk Music Series
         | and Bloomsbury's Ex:Centrics, and articles in the various
         | musicological journals. Obviously the more erudite the artist,
         | the more likely he/she will draw attention from scholars (which
         | is why David Bowie and Kate Bush, for example, have been
         | researched more than most pop musicians). But still, there may
         | be more out there on your own favourite artists than you think.
        
           | anigbrowl wrote:
           | That's a pity. It's easy for a smart firm to take over a
           | space like this, but in doing so it kills all the lesser fan-
           | driven versions. The latter are labors of love and vary
           | widely in quality, but I'm not sure that a homogenized
           | platform-product is superior.
        
       | quercusa wrote:
       | Somebody found the source disks that PSB used in their Fairlight
       | CMI synthesizer:
       | 
       | https://synthroom.com/fairlight-cmi/psb-fairlight-disks/
        
         | dewclin wrote:
         | ... and here's the Fairlight in action:
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0mF9soHA8M
        
           | ano-ther wrote:
           | Which one is it? I see a Yamaha DX1, an EMU emulator II and
           | Technics PX.
           | 
           | There are some screens that look like Fairlight control
           | screens. Is the Fairlight used for the background drums and
           | base etc?
        
       | brianzelip wrote:
       | Surely there have been (lots) more than 800 visits to this site
       | since March 2001! Love the counter though!
        
       | m348e912 wrote:
       | Really the only review that matters for most of us casuals:
       | http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/please/westendgirls.htm
        
         | 082349872349872 wrote:
         | Surely you meant
         | http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/very/gowest.htm ?
        
           | omarhaneef wrote:
           | This should not be a debate.
           | 
           | Take a note from the pet shop boys: they never argue.
           | 
           | They also never calculate the currency they spend.
        
           | geoelectric wrote:
           | I feel honor-bound to correct your typo where you meant to
           | post http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/actually/sin.htm
        
           | aidenn0 wrote:
           | Not in the US (as is even mentioned on that page).
        
           | nocoiner wrote:
           | This song is transcendent in so many ways.
        
         | nuxi wrote:
         | Actually, what matters is "Rent". Pun intended and all... :)
        
       | pavlov wrote:
       | Wow, I remember reading this site over twenty years ago. It's
       | neat that both PSB and this fan site are still going strong.
       | 
       | There was a time around 1994-96 when almost every website was
       | like this: dense, tightly focused, produced by someone with an
       | amateur passion for the topic.
       | 
       | Today it seems that content in that mold is much more likely to
       | be walled inside social media sites, shared with relatively small
       | like-minded groups.
        
         | pvaldes wrote:
         | > It's neat that both PSB and this fan site are still going
         | strong.
         | 
         | As legit bearers of the "great white-nerd hope" crown, Pet shop
         | boys never where small in Europe, but they were clearly too
         | much for US. not only gay, but (their worse sin) too much
         | focused in politics and history (socialist history) to be
         | accepted.
         | 
         | In the game of writing catchy songs that are well crafted and
         | don't feel stupid, still can beat most of the current pop stars
         | with both hands tied back. They still show the cool factor here
         | and there.
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooIWFjD-Y84
         | 
         | Or even better: the magnificient Love Comes Quickly
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EuS9iJsdRw
        
           | jacobgorm wrote:
           | I've seen them live both in the US and several times in
           | Europe. In Europe they are completely mainstream playing
           | large venues in front of evenly mixed gender audiences,
           | whereas when I saw them in the US the venue was much smaller
           | and the audience seemed to consist mostly of men.
        
             | pvaldes wrote:
             | Is sad that they are tagged as a "gay group" now, when the
             | first three albums were simply two nerds doing insanely
             | catchy, state-of-the-art, electronic pop that everybody
             | loved. This ruins the experience a little probably.
        
             | OfSanguineFire wrote:
             | I talked to a straight house DJ two decades ago who said
             | that he felt compelled to throw in the occasional PSB
             | remix, among a few other artists, just to maintain the gay
             | following without which no DJ's career would flourish in
             | clubland. At a time when house music still had this
             | "underground", "play the music you love" aura, it
             | definitely showed how mercenary set programming could be.
        
         | dfxm12 wrote:
         | Today, the info would be in wikia packed with ads/autplaying
         | videos, or maybe a discord that is impossible to find.
         | 
         | I searched "Pet shop boys go west" in google, and this page was
         | below the fold, despite me having just visited it. Ahead of it
         | was a bunch of videos (ok), lyrics pages (I only need one), a
         | wikia page, a few ways to buy the album, two (!) different
         | links to quora, and a bunch of ways to stream the song.
         | 
         | I dunno if this site has poor SEO or these other sites are
         | gamifying it. The quora links really baffled me, and I'm
         | surprised at just how many different streaming/lyrics sites
         | popped up before I got to a different type of useful info.
        
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         | tommek4077 wrote:
         | Those sites are still being made. You just do not find them
         | with google. Maybe it is time to bring back curated lists and
         | web rings.
        
           | Baeocystin wrote:
           | Along the same vein: https://blog.kagi.com/small-web
        
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