[HN Gopher] Hush - Noiseless Browsing for Safari
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       Hush - Noiseless Browsing for Safari
        
       Author : sysadm1n
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2023-09-17 21:00 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (oblador.github.io)
        
       | asynchronous wrote:
       | Cookie banners are so annoying. I support any extension to remove
       | them.
        
         | mrtksn wrote:
         | They are probably designed to be like that so you can rush into
         | accepting the tracking across the web.
         | 
         | The web has become a sad place where most of the content is
         | made for showing you ads and tracking you around, therefore
         | tracking cookies are needed, therefore tracking cookie
         | permission batters are displayed.
        
         | frizlab wrote:
         | The DuckDuckGo browser automatically manages (auto-refuses)
         | these banners. It also has a lot of privacy-preserving features
         | and a distraction-free youtube player that's nice. And most of
         | all it's WebKit based, which is good for engine diversity, I
         | guess.
        
           | stranded22 wrote:
           | On iOS, the only engine available is WebKit.
           | 
           | On Android, it uses blink (Chromium)
        
         | bananapub wrote:
         | they're designed to be annoying, a perfectly reasonable
         | response to GDPR was to stop being fucking creepy
        
       | kseifried wrote:
       | I'm trying to think of when I want my browser to make noise.
       | 
       | Outside of Squadcast, YouTube and CBC, and... I'm drawing a
       | blank. I feel like allow listing a handful of websites to make
       | noise would be fine.
       | 
       | Edit: Also, let's see if anybody replying to this actually read
       | the article I know this isn't exactly what the article talks
       | about but it's what came to my mind when I saw the title.
        
       | gtowey wrote:
       | GDPR in Europe is what started it all. The law says that you must
       | get explicit user consent for all kinds of data tracking.
       | 
       | However it doesn't say how that should happen.
       | 
       | The annoying banners are completely a decision the industry has
       | made. It's so weird to me that pretty much everyone adopted a
       | near identical way to implement this. It also feels like
       | retaliation -- a way to punish users by making these banners as
       | disruptive as possible, and then blame it on regulations. It's
       | like companies would rather destroy the web than give in and
       | actually make it better.
        
         | xctr94 wrote:
         | It's also a remarkably stupid implementation. If you follow the
         | rules [1] in a strict way, the website should be usable if the
         | user denied consent to non-essential cookie usage. You don't
         | need consent for strictly necessary cookies.
         | 
         | So a bunch of websites don't actually need a cookie banner, as
         | long as they're not using non-essential cookies. You could
         | easily get consent for marketing/tracking cookies in an
         | unobtrusive way.
         | 
         | Instead, a lot of websites must have seen a drop in conversion
         | because no one wants to interact with these awful cookie popups
         | that have a hundred toggles.
         | 
         | AFAIK the page-blocking cookie banners don't just convert
         | worse, they're actually not permitted (you can't block the
         | experience to force consent).
         | 
         | On my end: unless your website is very important to me, I'll
         | just refuse the cookies or hit the back button and load the
         | next search result.
         | 
         | 1: https://gdpr.eu/cookies/
        
         | tikkun wrote:
         | What are some better ways to do it?
        
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