[HN Gopher] The Home Assistant Green is here
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The Home Assistant Green is here
Author : Tomte
Score : 65 points
Date : 2023-09-17 20:14 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| up6w6 wrote:
| Love how they want to keep the focus to the personal usage
| instead of selling themselves into building features for
| business.
|
| Does anyone knows what is the current state of the voice
| commands? I always wanted a self hosted version of Google
| Assistant. I bet it's possible to use a fine tuned version of
| llama and open source models like whisper to have a local
| assistant smarter than any of these smart speakers available in
| the market.
| COGlory wrote:
| Look into Willow by Tovera. It's exactly that.
| balloob wrote:
| We're working on making a voice assistant with Home
| Assistant[1]. We have all parts done except for wake word,
| which Hopefully we'll be able to ship soon.
|
| [1]: https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2023/04/27/year-of-the-
| vo...
| balloob wrote:
| We're super stoked to launch the Home Assistant Green[1]. It will
| be $99! The first 1000 are available today at Seeed, and 14000
| more will be available end of October. More to come afterwards.
|
| With Home Assistant Green we hope to make it very easy for people
| to join the Home Assistant community and experience a smart home
| focused on privacy and local control.
|
| [1]: https://www.home-assistant.io/green
| tbyehl wrote:
| RK3566? Any chance we could get Soquartz support for the
| Yellow?
| wildekek wrote:
| I love home assistant, but I wonder for whom this is. I presume
| this is for non-tech people, but how are they going to discover
| it? Without brick and mortar distribution, this is not going to
| fly imo.
| CharlesW wrote:
| > _I love home assistant, but I wonder for whom this is. I
| presume this is for non-tech people..._
|
| Not in my experience. For non-tech people, stick with Alexa or
| HomeKit, and _maybe_ set up Homebridge for them.
| joostlek wrote:
| I think the best way to discover you want to do something with
| smart home is seeing someone else do it. Then you can advice
| this to them and have less fear of becoming "the tech support".
| eiiot wrote:
| I've ran Home Assistant on a used Mac mini for the past three
| years and loved every second of it. Could not recommend more,
| especially because it's functionally indistinguishable from Apple
| HomeKit if you set up the right integrations, just compatible
| with more accessories.
| sebazzz wrote:
| And of course it also provides a HomeKit integration, which
| works quite well!
| cloudking wrote:
| Running it on a Raspberry Pi kit for 3 years solid. In additional
| to automations, also serving AdGuard and Tailscale for the
| network via easy to install plugins.
| andrewnicolalde wrote:
| Which tailscale plug-in are you using? The official one seems
| to only support automation and getting some tailnet metrics and
| does not connect your Home Assistant machine to your tailnet.
|
| https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/tailscale/
| cloudking wrote:
| https://github.com/tsujamin/hass-addons/tree/main/tailscale
| robbiet480 wrote:
| For those that are curious about the difference between Home
| Assistant Yellow and Home Assistant Green:
|
| Yellow is for power users. It supports any Raspberry Pi CM4-pin
| style board (for the "brain" including CPU/RAM/networking), is
| ZigBee/Thread enabled, has a M.2 slot for a SSD or Google Coral
| and optionally supports PoE. Green has none of these things, you
| have to add on a ZigBee/Thread stick via USB. Green is made for
| new users to Home Assistant who probably already have a Phillips
| Hue or IKEA TRADFRI hub for their devices. Green was also created
| because since Yellow was made Raspberry Pi CM4 prices went sky
| high and there was other competition in the same, newer, price
| range. Yellow will still continue to be supported long term.
| briHass wrote:
| It's great that this option is affordable, but at least for me,
| 90% of the value of HA is ESPHome, and I would want a little more
| horsepower for compiling and viewing logs. I run HAOS in a
| Proxmox VM and I had to bump the vCPUs from 1->3 to get
| reasonable compile times. I wonder how this RK3566 would perform
| when recompiling ESPHome devices, which happens every time you
| make a config change or a version bumps.
| Nextgrid wrote:
| This is pretty underwhelming without Zigbee or any "exotic"
| smart-home-specific hardware which would've been the main selling
| point of a HA-specific device.
|
| As it stands, this seems no better (nor cheaper!) than selling
| Raspberry Pis with preloaded SD cards (or any Wi-Fi/Bluetooth-
| enabled general purpose computer for that matter), and is
| actually worse because RPis have much better ecosystem support
| (outside of Hass) and are easier to source if a replacement is
| needed.
|
| I'm looking forwards to a turnkey Home Assistant hub that
| magically works with most consumer-grade smart home protocols
| (Zigbee, and upcoming Thread/Matter), but this is not it. "Buy
| this extra dongle to actually control your Hue/Ikea lights" is
| not going to compete with proprietary hubs that manage to do
| everything all-in-one and that most people already have in their
| house.
|
| Big fan of Home Assistant in general, but this is a
| disappointment for me.
| dundarious wrote:
| The green seems to be targeted at people who _could_ probably
| get a Pi and install an OS and install basic HA and schedule
| /manually do OS/HA upgrades and whatnot, but would rather just
| buy a box that does all that work for them. I know lots of
| people who can sweat their way through everything up to but not
| including upgrades, so for them, it's a good product.
| jgauth wrote:
| I recently discovered the home-assistant supervisor [1]
| repository. It's awesome to see such a well-designed, mature, and
| actively maintained open-source python application. I've found
| that there's no shortage of high quality python libraries and
| frameworks to learn from, but open-source applications aren't as
| common. I love coming across repos like this so I can study their
| design.
|
| [1] https://github.com/home-assistant/supervisor
| zrail wrote:
| The supervisor method of installation is difficult to get
| right. The easiest way forward is Home Assistant OS, which
| includes supervisor, or just running the Core docker container
| directly.
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