[HN Gopher] Nonograms - Japanese Crosswords
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Nonograms - Japanese Crosswords
Author : clouddrover
Score : 82 points
Date : 2023-09-16 08:08 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.nonograms.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.nonograms.org)
| Avshalom wrote:
| I stick to good all Simon Tatham
|
| https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/js/patt...
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| (also available in most linux distros and both the android and
| apple stores)
| mdtrooper wrote:
| Simon Tatham is a small group of people that I want to meet and
| invite to beers and torreznos
| (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torreznos).
|
| It is awesome his collection of puzzle games. There is android
| version in
| https://f-droid.org/es/packages/name.boyle.chris.sgtpuzzles/ .
| joeframbach wrote:
| Would be nice if I could keep tapping multiple times on a
| single cell to iterate through the states. Would make it mobile
| friendly with the least invasive changes to the existing UI.
| Avshalom wrote:
| https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=name.boyle.chr.
| .. works like that.
| berenddeperend wrote:
| Nonograms are great! I created a multiplayer co-op nonogram
| browser game that works with websockets, it was a lot of fun to
| create. https://berendswennenhuis.nl/nonogram/
| whoopsie wrote:
| The top puzzles are penises.
| berenddeperend wrote:
| Users can make new puzzles by drawing pixel art, so I guess
| it was unavoidable.
| harryvederci wrote:
| I like this. And as a Dutch guy, I like your user name.
| CatAtHeart wrote:
| Hungry Cat Nonogram [Google](https://play.google.com/store/apps/d
| etails?id=com.tuesdayque...)
| [iOS](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/hungry-cat-
| nonogram/id73774447...) was always my favorite of these as it had
| full-color puzzles.
|
| It was also called "Hungry Cat Picross" until Nintendo
| trademarked "Picross" and went after everything branded with it.
| This actually caused me to learn about the nonograms as I had
| assumed the type of puzzle was always called picross.
| BuenosNachos wrote:
| I thought they've owned the trademark for 15+ years at this
| point? That's part of the reason why Jupiter, the main dev for
| Nintendo's picross games, can't use the name when they create a
| picross game for a non-Nintendo system
|
| That's why they had to use the awkward Logiart name for the
| game they just published on Steam
| aqme28 wrote:
| Hungry Cat Nonogram uses a kind of numbering system that will
| really annoy you if you're coming from a different nonogram
| app.
| gurchik wrote:
| When Hurricane Irene left me with no power (and no wifi), I
| played hundreds of these nonograms on my Kindle Keyboard 3rd Gen.
| I was amazed by the battery life I could get even in a game that
| required many screen refreshes. I had bought the Kindle only a
| few days earlier, and the unlimited 3G access came in handy!
| phforms wrote:
| As a teenager, I loved solving Nonograms in puzzle magazines on
| train rides or when I was bored, they are the perfect time
| killer. Somehow I forgot about them but recently rediscovered
| them through a Twitter post, which was a real pleasure.
|
| The linked website seems to be very nice, especially since there
| is a community aspect to it, where people can send in their own
| puzzles (it seems like).
|
| My recent goto app for Nonograms is https://nonograms-katana.com
| , which works great on browsers and mobile alike with lots of
| well thought-out features (e.g. it asks you if you want cells
| automatically crossed out if a line is complete) and beautiful
| artwork, good interaction, etc.
| uoaei wrote:
| This one was always my favorite app but I had to move to a
| tablet once I got above 35x35 or so. Couldn't stand all the
| scrolling around.
| simonbarker87 wrote:
| I'm not into puzzles at all and is one of the reasons I find
| typical dev interviewing so frustrating, problems and puzzles are
| not interchangeable afaic.
|
| But my wife LOVES puzzles, her favourite type are nonograms.
| She's spent many a long haul flight casually watching films while
| really just devouring these things one after the other.
|
| They all end up making a picture of some kind (as far as I can
| tell anyway) so they scratch the itch of a logic puzzle and also
| the feeling of something creative, revealing the image at the
| end, be it a lions head, a windmill, landscape or whatever.
|
| If you're into puzzles and haven't tried these I second hand
| recommend it. Second hand since I can think of nothing worse than
| these things but I enjoy seeing the satisfaction and enjoyment my
| wife gets out of them. Them
| [deleted]
| dietr1ch wrote:
| I find that both, puzzles and problems can pet your brain with
| the reward of getting something right through reasoning. I
| guess the joy you get from problems maybe stems from the
| results or impact beyond the reasoning and solving part.
| simonbarker87 wrote:
| Exactly, the best part of a problem is the solution and its
| positive impact. Also, a viable solution to a problem is to
| go around it/avoid it. Since a puzzle (to me) has no tangible
| impact/benefit the best solution is to simply go around
| it/avoid it ... which apparently misses the point!
| neontomo wrote:
| I love this comment, probably because I relate so much. I enjoy
| designing puzzles more than actually solving them. The one
| exception is crosswords.
| simonbarker87 wrote:
| Interesting, I suppose the problem of creating the puzzle
| gives the tangible outcome of knowing that you made something
| for others to enjoy - which relates to the sibling comment to
| this and my reply.
| uoaei wrote:
| One of my favorite kinds of puzzles, one of those I played so
| long that I felt it necessary to build a solver in order to
| formalize the (slow, manual) algorithms I was employing.
|
| Once you get the hang of it, see if you can progress to Cross The
| Streams[1], a variant with wildcards and also more constraints so
| the solutions are at least achievable.
|
| [1] https://www.gmpuzzles.com/blog/cross-the-streams-rules-
| and-i...
| willis936 wrote:
| For the tiny intersection of HN users, nonogram enjoyers, and
| people who own functioning 3DS: I highly suggest playing picross
| 3D.
| [deleted]
| tetha wrote:
| If you have an itch to solve a few, https://griddlers.net has you
| covered for just about a lifetime. Even huge multi-grid-puzzles,
| triangle ones, colors, no colors.
| sirlantis wrote:
| Paint it Back (2013) was the first nonogram game I devoured and
| still have a great memories of playing it by the pool.
|
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1PjruB8wDLQ
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| https://apps.apple.com/us/app/paint-it-back-gameclub/id14915...
|
| Less pretty but very functional app with near infinite content to
| play these days is Nonograms Katana.
|
| https://apps.apple.com/de/app/nonograms-katana/id1037710023?...
| deaddodo wrote:
| The android version of Katana looks _and_ functions a bit
| better. I don 't know if the devs are just less informed or
| just care less for iOS but, having made the switch recently,
| it's a pretty drastic difference.
| hadrien01 wrote:
| Nonograms Katana also has a Web version: https://nonograms-
| katana.com/play/
|
| I use it almost daily on my laptop.
|
| On my phone, I use Nonogram Galaxy. So much that my previous
| phone has some of the app layout burned-in on the OLED screen.
| aidenn0 wrote:
| Aw man, there was an adventure game back in the day where you had
| to solve a bunch of these, but the numbers were from an alien
| script. Earlier in the game, you encounter a clock using the same
| script, which if you didn't notice and record, you were going to
| have a hard time.
|
| Of course this being an old-school game, they specifically
| disable the load/save feature as soon as you go into the puzzle
| room.
| philshem wrote:
| The site isn't readable on my mobile device, so here is the
| Wikipedia article for "nonogram", for others who don't know what
| they area
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonogram
| marcos-dv wrote:
| Nonograms provide nice BW pictures, I love solving them through
| general techniques such as Constraint Programming.
|
| Nonograms solver through Python in Jupyter notebook using ampl
| and highs mip solver:
|
| https://colab.ampl.com/tags/mip.html#solving-a-nonogram-puzz...
| mzl wrote:
| See chapter 17 in https://www.gecode.org/doc-latest/MPG.pdf for
| a description on how to solve it with regular expression
| constraints using CP.
| marcos-dv wrote:
| Great material, thanks for the reference!
| marban wrote:
| Mario's Picross -- Highly recommended.
| [deleted]
| drooopy wrote:
| That game was a gateway drug!
| ChrisClark wrote:
| That's where I got hooked as a kid. And I've been solving them
| ever since. Nonograms Katana on the Fold 3 with the S Pen is
| amazing. For someone as addicted to them as me, it almost made
| the price of the phone worth it in itself. Yeah, I'm a bit
| crazy.
| haunter wrote:
| The Picross series on 3DS is perfect. The stylus makes the whole
| solving as close to paper as possible with all the upsides of
| being a digital game.
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| [deleted]
| jprete wrote:
| Nonograms are not bad but I wouldn't consider them either
| crosswords or puzzles. There's a cap on how much skill is needed
| to solve one (of a reasonable size) based on the need to make a
| solvable piece of art.
|
| (Nonograms in general - without the need for a pictoral reward -
| might well be NP hard or even able to encrypt information. I'm
| not at all sure.)
| bluepod4 wrote:
| They're not crosswords. But they are _logic_ puzzles. Regarding
| your skill cap comment, even children's jigsaw puzzles that
| have 4 pieces are still considered puzzles lol.
|
| Wikipedia says NP-complete under "Nonograms in computing".
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonogram
| GuB-42 wrote:
| They are definitely puzzles. But they are closer to sudoku than
| crosswords in that no knowledge is required besides the rules
| of the game.
|
| As for the skill cap. It is the same for the Rubik's cube, once
| you know the algorithms, solving it is straightforward. It
| doesn't make it less of a puzzle. And if you want to up the
| skill cap, time it (as in speed cubing).
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