[HN Gopher] Layoffs.fyi
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Layoffs.fyi
Author : hammock
Score : 85 points
Date : 2023-09-16 20:28 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| iwonthecase wrote:
| The time series chart shows a pretty strong decrease in the
| number of layoffs the last month, which is something I've noticed
| on the opposite side, where I'm getting a lot more interviews
| recently. Might just be my imagination though.
|
| Also I did some analysis on this dataset a few months ago, and it
| seems like layoffs tend to happen near the beginning of the
| month, but I'm not sure why that would be.
|
| Also, as an aside, this doesn't cover all places and I'd guess
| smaller startups would be less likely to show up. My last place
| went from about 45 to 10 employees over the last year (layoffs,
| RTO bs, terminations for "performance," etc.) and isn't on this
| list, for example.
| tempsy wrote:
| I'm mostly interested in forced resignations due to not wanting
| to RTO.
|
| The flip side is impact to "zoom towns" that were booming with
| remote workers and whether a bunch of new listings from RTO
| workers will drag certain housing markets lower
| cle wrote:
| It would be interesting to count people who were likely forced
| out due to return-to-office mandates.
| cebert wrote:
| I'm a huge proponent of RTO, but that's a personal decision not
| a layoff.
| paxys wrote:
| It's not a personal decision when the job was advertised as
| fully remote, you were hired in city A with the expectation
| that you would continue to live there, and then a few months
| later the company said "move your family 2000 miles to city B
| or resign".
|
| If the company changes the terms of employment and you don't
| accept the new terms, that's not on you. The company is the
| one deciding to fire you, plain and simple.
| paulcole wrote:
| If the company can change the terms of employment and you
| somehow believed that your job was fully remote forever
| that's on you.
| finikytou wrote:
| its not a decision when it is forced...
| halfjoking wrote:
| Tell that to the vaccine mandate crowd.
|
| Potentially harmful, forced gene therapy injections weren't
| in my original employment contract, just like in-office
| work wasn't in fully remote workers contract.
| cebert wrote:
| The employee chose not to return to the office though.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_dismissal
| tnel77 wrote:
| Hard to argue with that logic.
| gusgus01 wrote:
| There's definitely still a discussion around the concept
| of constructive dismissal that could be had. Although a
| lot of that has to do with the exact parameters of the
| RTO, so it would be company to company.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| I have provided guidance to several folks over the last
| few years with regards to taking a remote role. I have
| told all of them to require in their offer letter that
| the role be defined as remote without an in office
| component (it helps if you don't take a role at an org
| that has an office within 50 miles of your home address).
| I have also provided them with contact information for an
| employment attorney who will provide a letter to their
| employer with regards to their employment arrangement
| being remote. In no cases has the employer successfully
| required the employee return to office, and only once was
| the attorney necessary to push the issue.
|
| n=1. If you're taking a remote role, have it codified in
| your offer letter. Retain that as an artifact in the
| event you need to engage legally. Always be prepared for
| your job to end at any time due to the state of US
| employment, but also set yourself up for success whenever
| possible.
|
| And if you're not organizing and unionizing to secure
| remote work as a right at your org, you should consider
| it. Very favorable environment at the moment to do so.
| lmeyerov wrote:
| ACT 1
|
| "We're hiring remote, being in NYC or London or Peru is
| totally fine, geographic diversity of talent is a
| strength! Own your schedule!"
|
| ACT 2
|
| "Sorry folks, we just had a downround, can't control the
| market.
|
| BTW in totally unrelated news, RTO next week. Folks in
| NYC & London & Peru, you can keep your job, just move to
| SF HQ. We will not pay for movers, higher SF
| compensation, etc. Also, it's starting on Monday, no
| excuses: We can't wait for your kids to finish the school
| year, your wife to get a new medical specialist, nor help
| you find a preschool for your youngest. I know it's
| annoying, it took me a year to get through a waitlist for
| ours, haha SF. Totally not a layoff... though HR does
| tell us to expect 10-20% attrition..."
| arrowsmith wrote:
| Is this legal?
| exgl wrote:
| Notable that the latest layoff there (and a pretty large one, at
| that) is Airtable, which is the system the site relies heavily
| upon.
| tibbon wrote:
| Is this dog fooding the app?
| syndicatedjelly wrote:
| Why is it okay to list the specific employees who were laid off?
| What if they don't want that information to be publicized to the
| internet?
| yreg wrote:
| Those lists shouldn't contain people who haven't submitted
| their names themselves.
| JoRyGu wrote:
| Shouldn't as in they might contain names against people's
| consent and that's bad, or shouldn't as in there is some
| process in place for people to submit their names and they
| derive the data from that process?
| Bluecobra wrote:
| If you go to the "Lists of Employees Laid Off" there's a link
| to a Google spreadsheet. It seems to be gleaned/scraped from
| LinkedIn, so I guess if you keep your profile up to date you
| will show up in this list...
| mkmk wrote:
| Typically these lists are created by one of the laid off
| employees or the HR team that laid them off, and are opt-
| in. They are circulated to help those who were laid off
| find new jobs.
| syndicatedjelly wrote:
| That's not cool at all
| ssnistfajen wrote:
| Why? LinkedIn is public info. These people willingly
| posted on LinkedIn about changes in their job statuses.
|
| The amount of details contained in these spreadsheets
| (previous job title, YoE, location, work preferences,
| contact info, etc.) are pretty clearly meant to match
| with potential employers
| [deleted]
| shrikant wrote:
| Is this crowd sourced, or is there an element of curation? My ex-
| employer is on there twice as Kape and Kape Technologies.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| It is crowdsourced but also curated by an individual.
| dcoleyoung1 wrote:
| true aficionados of tech booms remember
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucked_Company
| garrickvanburen wrote:
| Legend
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