[HN Gopher] EU confirms six (mostly US) tech giants are subject ...
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       EU confirms six (mostly US) tech giants are subject to Digital
       Markets Act
        
       Author : bookofjoe
       Score  : 42 points
       Date   : 2023-09-15 17:03 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (techcrunch.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (techcrunch.com)
        
       | psittacus wrote:
       | Seemingly no iMessage, unfortunately.
       | 
       | I guess Apple won that argument.
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37401632
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       | edit: the article actually mentions iMessage explicitly:
       | 
       | > And the newspaper reported the Commission was still
       | deliberating over the inclusion of Bing and iMessage.
       | 
       | > In the event, the EU looks to be taking a cautious approach to
       | this early pushback -- since, as noted above, both Bing and
       | iMessage are not on the initial list of 22 core platform
       | services. Instead, the Commission has agreed to take a closer
       | look at Apple and Microsoft's arguments that these services
       | should be excluded.
        
         | Renaud wrote:
         | I really don't understand how they managed to wiggle themselves
         | out of this. iMessage only works on Apple hardware which
         | actively prevents communication between users of other devices
         | (Windows, Linux, Android).
         | 
         | Sure, their argument is that people use other messaging apps
         | when they need to communicate with people on other platforms,
         | but that was one of the main points of the DMA, to make the
         | products provided by Gatekeepers interoperate with other
         | services.
         | 
         | So it means WhatsApp will be required to operate with other
         | services, but they won't be able to do that with iMessage
         | because Apple isn't required to participate...
         | 
         | I'm curious how this will all pan out and how these services
         | will twist their interpretation of the legislation to make sure
         | they remain dominant and keep users in their silos.
        
         | xxpor wrote:
         | They're probably right within the EU tbh
        
           | edrxty wrote:
           | Sounds like we need to do the same thing in the US then.
        
       | zamadatix wrote:
       | Does anyone have a clear understanding of what the expected
       | tangible impacts are in regards to Safari and Chrome?
        
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