[HN Gopher] 95 bits per second
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       95 bits per second
        
       Author : pabs3
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2023-09-15 02:08 UTC (20 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (popey.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (popey.com)
        
       | NikkiA wrote:
       | I too used the "disks by post" service (in the UK) that the
       | article describes, I've mentioned it before on HN too, but my
       | investigation hasn't turned up the name of the company/catalog
       | either, but I _am_ fairly sure that it was a franchise operation
       | based on the work of the ASP -  "Association of Shareware
       | Professionals" which was a US based organisation formed by a
       | collection of shareware authors in 1987, and produced such a mail
       | order catalog of software that you could order bulk shareware
       | from.
        
       | dreamlayers wrote:
       | I see no evidence that the amazing increase in data transfer
       | rates has increased people's happiness. That is because happiness
       | is a measure of something else, more like how well you're using
       | the opportunities available at the time.
        
         | icedchai wrote:
         | I'm pretty sure I was happier with 9600 baud back in 1991.
         | Everything felt so new and exciting. The upgrade from 2400 to
         | 9600 bps felt huge. The upgrade from 300 megabits to a gigabit?
         | I hardly noticed.
        
       | utopcell wrote:
       | Meh: pigeons are still the fastest way to transfer data [1]
       | within 600 miles.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/a-pigeon-can-
       | deli...
        
         | hinkley wrote:
         | Never underestimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon full of
         | [data] tapes hurtling down the highway. -Tannenbaum
        
       | ajsnigrutin wrote:
       | Ham radio community is still full of interesting protocols from
       | sstv ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow-scan_television ) to
       | "hell" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellschreiber ... at
       | whopping 14 baud for slow-hell :) )
        
       | petesergeant wrote:
       | > An order form at the back of the catalog could be filled in,
       | stuffed in an envelope with a postal order or cheque, then poked
       | into the nearest post-box.
       | 
       | Or indeed with stamps, in a few cases, which was a God-send for
       | an 11 year old me who didn't have easy access to postal orders or
       | cheques but could purchase a book of stamps anywhere.
        
       | mikeInAlaska wrote:
       | I remember working for hours and hours, failing, to get a 32kb
       | transfer to work between two Commodore 64's with 1650 Automodems.
       | I wish I could remember the app, it would be a nostalgia overload
       | to see a screenshot of it again.
        
       | hinkley wrote:
       | Part of my evolution as a modem owner was downloading small files
       | I was pretty sure I could download before getting kicked off,
       | running out of small files that were interesting, and having to
       | progressively ramp up to zmodem and late nights to just barely
       | finish downloading a file before timing out if I logged straight
       | in and didn't do anything else, and then nobody in my family
       | picked up the phone to make a phone call.
       | 
       | Even for shorter files, if they picked up the phone at 80% that
       | was it for the day (and at the time restarting a transfer either
       | didn't exist or was too esoteric for me)
        
         | Mountain_Skies wrote:
         | Almost positive that zmodem could continue an interrupted file
         | transfer but there were quirks that you may have encountered
         | that prevented it from doing it automatically.
        
           | hinkley wrote:
           | I suspect my stumbling block was 'can you get the other side
           | to play along'.
           | 
           | It's been so long that I have probably forgotten the finer
           | details. For all I recall now, I may have spent 3 days
           | downloading a single file and decided that was enough effort
           | for one program.
           | 
           | On those BBSes or other services there was always something
           | else you'd want to be doing with your allotted time. Skipping
           | one day was one thing, skipping half a week was something
           | else entirely.
        
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