[HN Gopher] MenuetOS
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       MenuetOS
        
       Author : LorenDB
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2023-09-14 20:45 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (menuetos.net)
 (TXT) w3m dump (menuetos.net)
        
       | CodeWriter23 wrote:
       | IJS before all those "extra layers" in operating systems we used
       | to do stuff like escalate privilege to admin using POKE in BASIC.
       | (OS: Oasis, later 'c/is' a Z80 multiuser os from the mid-80s)
        
       | mixmastamyk wrote:
       | This was so small back in the day (one floppy I believe), that I
       | proposed it for firmware or boot manager before EFI became
       | ubiquitous or coreboot came along.
       | 
       | Wonder how that would have played out.
        
         | sitzkrieg wrote:
         | i had similar thoughts, and in modern times "just enough for
         | containers" would be the business i guess.
         | 
         | baremetal os might be it the one tho
         | 
         | https://github.com/ownmac/BareMetal-OS
        
       | atan2 wrote:
       | The first time I read about Menuet OS was on Dr.Dobbs a long time
       | ago.
        
       | squarefoot wrote:
       | I gave it a try many years ago and its speed was jawdropping. Too
       | bad that a port to ARM would require a complete rewrite; those
       | cheaper lower end *Pi-like embedded boards seem just the perfect
       | platforms to take advantage of such a small and fast OS.
        
       | velcrovan wrote:
       | What are boot times like?
       | 
       | I see a lot of text-editing environments geared towards
       | "distraction-free, focused editing" but not a lot of innovation
       | on an OS focused on the same experience. I would like to see such
       | a "writing OS" that boots to a text editor in less than a second.
       | Maybe this OS is a candidate?
        
         | mike_hock wrote:
         | Faster than you can say "what are boot times like" from what I
         | remember.
         | 
         | But it's not a practically usable OS, it's more like a study in
         | how far you can get with pure assembly. Though if a text editor
         | is really all you want, it might be good enough.
        
         | mdp2021 wrote:
         | It was said to boot in 5s twenty years ago...
         | 
         | The hardware compatibility list shows a promising number of
         | machines ( http://www.menuetos.net/hwc.txt ). If you have a
         | spare one, you could try and report. There is a chance that you
         | will achieve a very fast boot time.
         | 
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         | AROS (Amiga) could reboot in ~7s, ~15yrs ago. And you can do
         | more than you can with MenuetOS. Again, today you will probably
         | break that record.
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yNIuNnBrWg
         | 
         | Edit:
         | 
         | You can see here a recent AROS booting in 3s (it is not clear
         | if it is bare metal though):
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s_TfmF-_iE
        
       | xyproto wrote:
       | It's such a pity that the 32bit version is open source and the
       | 64-bit version proprietary.
       | 
       | The open source alternative is KolibriOS.
        
         | cylinder714 wrote:
         | My understanding is that Kolibri is a hostile fork of Menuet,
         | and that Menuet's author closed it in retaliation.
        
       | whalesalad wrote:
       | This was epic! I used to bring this to school on a floppy and was
       | absolutely shocked at the quality of the experience after
       | booting. It's a pretty full featured desktop environment.
        
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