[HN Gopher] Ask HN: How do I get into consulting / freelancing?
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       Ask HN: How do I get into consulting / freelancing?
        
       I quit my software engineering job about 4 months ago, went to
       travel, and building my side project into a business.  However,
       things don't work as fast as I expected. My least preferred option
       is going back to being an employee, therefor I'm considering
       switching to freelance or consulting. I believe that I have a very
       vast experience, and can be of good use.  I, however, have no idea
       how to get into becoming a freelancer/consultant. I don't want to
       complete with people on Upwork, and similar, and I tried to reach
       out to my old connections.  Are there any other tips, or
       recommendations that you can share? Thanks in advance!
        
       Author : skwee357
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2023-09-14 17:36 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
       | ushercakes wrote:
       | I think Upwork is a terrible experience, but also, it's a pretty
       | safe starting point.
       | 
       | It's where most potential clients are. You just need to
       | undervalue your services a bit, bid low, get some good reviews.
       | You do this for a month or two: over delivering, under charging.
       | 
       | Eventually, you get to a point where you have a very solid job
       | history, and your profile stands out because of it.
       | 
       | At this point, you can charge a bit more.
       | 
       | Shameless plug: I made https://contractrates.fyi to help
       | consultants/freelancers figure out how much too charge. It's like
       | levels.fyi, but for freelancers. Also free - I tried monetizing
       | it in the past and failed miserably. Now I just maintain it as a
       | free resource.
       | 
       | There is also the route of Catalant, which is significantly more
       | lucrative than say Upwork, but maybe has a little higher barrier
       | to entry. I know several people though that make insane money on
       | Catalant, because they are billing rates as if they are working
       | for a big 4 consulting firm (~$800+ an hour). Expectations are
       | higher though, and it's much less casual than Upwork. Clients
       | overall are less annoying, in my experience, though.
        
       | pjlegato wrote:
       | By far the best way to operate is via in-network connections you
       | already have. This could be former employers who were happy with
       | your work as an employee, former colleagues at those jobs, people
       | you know from your local university or tech community, even niche
       | Discords / Slacks / forums, and so on: places where you are a
       | known quantity and not a commodity, places where you are not
       | competing with a million anonymous consultants on the Internet.
       | 
       | If you are on Upwork or some similar site, you are in a brutal
       | Hunger Games deathmatch with many, many highly experienced people
       | around the world, all racing to the bottom to be commodity
       | service providers at the lowest possible cost. Avoid that if at
       | all possible.
       | 
       | Devote specific time towards keeping your old connections alive,
       | revitalize that network periodically in accordance with your
       | local business customs and norms (the exact things you have to do
       | to do this vary significantly by region.) That network is highly
       | valuable to you as a consultant. That is the one place in the
       | world where you are not merely a commodity.
       | 
       | Take time too to expand your network: attend conferences and
       | technical meetups. Participate in them as a presenter as much as
       | you can. Ask people in your network for introductions to others.
       | 
       | You will find the networking aspect takes up a tremendous amount
       | of time if done properly. Many don't like this, which is fine;
       | these people tend to go back to being an employee.
       | 
       | Finally, make sure you don't spend all of your income as you get
       | it -- that is, save a significant amount of money to cover the
       | low points in your sales cycle. Your income as a consultant is
       | highly "lumpy," meaning you will receive a lot of money at some
       | points, then no money at all for a long time. Make sure you've
       | budgeted appropriately, and you have enough money in reserve to
       | pay for the "no income" parts of the cycle.
       | 
       | Hope this helps.
        
       | leet_thow wrote:
       | If you have to ask, it's not going to work out for you. The
       | market is saturated with unemployed tech workers. Unless you have
       | exceptional skills at rock bottom prices, there will be nothing
       | anyone will pay you to do. Harsh reality of the current economic
       | situation.
        
       | mfalcon wrote:
       | The most "organic" way would be to get into
       | consulting/freelancing after you start getting several proposals.
       | You can get into it with no network, but you'll have to work your
       | way until getting one: blogging, showing your work, cold
       | emailing...
        
       | bjord wrote:
       | I'm surprised no one has mentioned Linkedin yet. It's been an
       | essential tool for maintaining and expanding my professional
       | network. I've also found that the occasional life update post
       | gets me in front of a lot of potential clients. It gets shown to
       | those in my network, and if they interact with it, those in their
       | networks as well. To be fair, though, my life has been more
       | "exciting" than most, recently, so your mileage may vary.
        
       | softwaredoug wrote:
       | You do a lot of networking with people you want to work with.
       | Then you talk about working together and figure it out. Lots of
       | small companies or people with smaller budgets will say "oh crap,
       | I wish I could hire you as an employee, but I can only afford a
       | freelancer".
        
       | mr_o47 wrote:
       | To begin, you might want to check out UPWORK, as it's where most
       | clients are, and you'll probably find your initial clients there.
       | 
       | Secondly, building a brand or online presence would go a long
       | way. This is a slightly more challenging route, but it's also
       | rewarding. For instance, if you have an open-source project, you
       | could secure consulting projects based on your project. Blogging
       | can also be beneficial.
       | 
       | Lastly, if you're just starting out, definitely start with UPWORK
       | and gradually build your brand/online presence.
        
       | matt3210 wrote:
       | It sucks. Get ready to do lots of non technical stuff for running
       | a business
        
       | pasterofmuppets wrote:
       | The description fits me perfectly except I am ahead of you. I
       | quit almost a year ago and started consulting for a former
       | employer just now.
       | 
       | I don't have much advice to give though. It's hard to get started
       | and even when you do find a client it can take months before the
       | paper work has been sorted if the client is a large (and slow)
       | corporation.
       | 
       | Now I am making money again though after living on savings for
       | almost a year, and I have a much better (more flexible) deal than
       | when I was an employee there.
        
       | toomuchtodo wrote:
       | Previous thread that might provide value:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21189801 ("Ask HN: How do I
       | make the move to consultant?" (2019))
        
       | snappyc wrote:
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       | peterbozso wrote:
       | Not much. Work as an employee until you build out a network big
       | enough to rely on to get contracting jobs. It's faster if you
       | work in professional services or technical sales roles as an
       | employee already.
        
       | chunkyguy wrote:
       | The best freelancing jobs I got were from my network. Mostly
       | people who were contacted by someone for a gig and they referred
       | my name.
        
       | markjonsona989 wrote:
       | I plan to do the exact same thing next year. I don't have all the
       | answers for you, but I would start by asking my LinkedIn network
       | about any contracting jobs <6months and build a CV website. I
       | assume you come from the Tech industry, but a lot can depend on
       | what branch of IT. Developers can get their name out a lot easier
       | than (DevSec)Ops people by contributing to OSS, so give that a
       | try. But either way even a basic Udemy course on the subject can
       | be helpful if you have no idea where to begin.
        
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