[HN Gopher] Openmoji
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Openmoji
Author : AnhTho_FR
Score : 212 points
Date : 2023-09-13 08:50 UTC (14 hours ago)
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| steamer25 wrote:
| The library reminds me a bit of a page I threw together to browse
| the EmojiOne set:
|
| https://stime.tech/emoji-explorer/index.html
|
| Give it a minute to load the JS, and then you'll get a dialog for
| each icon/character you click. My favorite part was using XSLT
| over the original SVG data to generate black and white "coloring
| sheets". Most of them turned out pretty decent. E.g.,
| https://stime.tech/emoji-explorer/assets/coloring/emoji-snai...
| Bellamy wrote:
| I thought emojis definition is that it's supported by major
| browsers/phones/etc.
| sBqQu3U0wH wrote:
| [flagged]
| npteljes wrote:
| Communication is not cancer.
| sBqQu3U0wH wrote:
| Emojis aren't communication, it's an unnecessary noise and
| adds nothing of value. We would be slightly better off if
| such garbage never existed.
| kamel3d wrote:
| I whish they were better looking, I would have updated my website
| https://www.emojilo.com
| tuukkah wrote:
| Great idea to spread the work among students! "OpenMoji is an
| open-source project of the HfG Schwabisch Gmund by Benedikt
| Gross, Daniel Utz, 70+ students and external contributors."
|
| An assignment for each student could be to come up with one emoji
| currently missing from Unicode. The extensions they have so far
| seem very useful: UI elements, field-specific concepts, regional
| foods and animals, e.g.
| https://openmoji.org/library/#group=extras-openmoji%2Ffood-d...
| Biganon wrote:
| > Animals with a big body are illustrated from the side.
|
| Proceed to illustrate the rabbit from the side, but the lion from
| the front. How big is this rabbit??
| [deleted]
| thombat wrote:
| As big as the Cave of Caerbannog?
| Fileformat wrote:
| Shameless self promotion:
|
| While I use Emojipedia to search for emoji (and view previous
| versions, which is really great), they don't link to the SVGs,
| so...
|
| [Awesome Emoji](https://github.com/VectorLogoZone/awesome-emoji)
| with links to the SVGs for any emoji sets that I could find.
| Contributions welcome!
| [deleted]
| zegl wrote:
| I really like this project, and it's fun to see that they are
| adding their own extra emojis as well.
| timeon wrote:
| Menu in Library does not work in Safari.
| lionkor wrote:
| Why is there U+E183 "Trump"[1] that is just a caricature of
| Trump?
|
| Seems a little bit daft to add any kind of political bias?
|
| I would expect extensions to Unicode like that to be pretty
| universal, and to not include specific current political figures.
| Same with Great Thunberg[2] -- I just dont see why these
| characters are in any way revelant enough. Do we add Putin? Do we
| add Einstein? Do we add Hitler? Do we add all the Caesars? How
| about emperor of the holy roman empire? Oppenheimer? Ghandi?
|
| There should certainly be a line. Last thing that needs to be
| more political are emojis.
|
| [1]: https://openmoji.org/library/emoji-E183/
|
| [2]: https://openmoji.org/library/emoji-E188/
| [deleted]
| throw_a_grenade wrote:
| U+E000 through U+F8FF is "private use area":
| https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/UE000.pdf . Those characters
| were not "added to Unicode", but every font is free to add
| whatever they want there. Those are obviously not
| interoperable, that is, other font designers can place entirely
| different characters there.
| lionkor wrote:
| Also, not sure why you quoted me as saying "added to
| Unicode", I specifically worded it as "extensions to
| Unicode"?
| lionkor wrote:
| Of course, yes, but for an "OpenMoji" project I would have
| expected a bit more professionalism.
| masukomi wrote:
| ... for a project done by a bunch of volunteers and young
| students likely having fun making little graphics without
| compensation, and with a name that involves a casual
| shortening of the key term ..... you expected
| "professionalism"
|
| young students... and random volunteers... who aren't
| getting paid...
|
| do you _really_ think that an expectation of
| "professionalism" is one that lines up well with the
| reality of the project?
| lionkor wrote:
| I was going to share and use this, yes, but this smells
| of the kind of quirkiness I dont care for. Thats all.
| drdaeman wrote:
| Here's another political bias:
| https://openmoji.org/library/emoji-1F52B/
|
| Mixed signals, hah. The character is - incorrectly, according
| to UCD, where it's still "pistol" - called "water pistol" (name
| probably coming either from Emojipedia or CLDR) but supposedly
| features a firearm.
| vanderZwan wrote:
| Another commenter pointed out at least 70 students contributed
| to this font as part of an assignment. I'm guessing that being
| allowed to add their own emoji for fun in the private use area
| was part of the deal. Small price to pay for motivating them if
| you ask me.
| doloputer wrote:
| I think I would prefer if emojis of people used character
| sequences like flags do, rather than single characters in the
| PUA. No idea what should be done with name conflicts.
| looping8 wrote:
| These are very pretty, I really like the line breaks when an
| element is added over the face, such as in "face with tears of
| joy" or "star-struck". But some of them look a little off for me,
| like the skull or the baby emoji.
| jonathankoren wrote:
| Beyond its value as an art project (which this project seems to
| be), I've never understood the desire -- let alone need -- for
| custom emoji drawings for the official Unicode emojis. The OS
| already support these. You're just reinventing the wheel.
|
| It's not licensing, otherwise the very font you're looking at is
| illegal.
|
| If it for some he idea that some novel emoji isn't supported
| until someone updates; well, that's like what? A couple of weeks
| every four years? Even then, that doesn't explain why the basic
| smiley gets revamped, that's over a decade old.
|
| Consistency? Please. Your app is already inconsistent across
| platforms due to platform conventions, and you've made _your_ app
| inconsistent with every other app.
|
| In the end me, we're left with one reason. Perhaps the most
| common reason why anything is done in big tech (and let's be
| honest, that's who the little people take their cues from),
| vanity.
|
| Apple is the canonical design. Sure, maybe some OS needs a font,
| but there's literally no reason X, or Facebook, or Samsung need
| their own font.
| leipert wrote:
| Any color the customer wants, as long as it's black.
|
| Following your argument we also just need one font covering all
| Unicode in general.
|
| I am happy that there is variants to choose from and that
| apparently the designs also influence each other.
|
| Also licensing, which you dismissed handwavingly, is an issue
| because e.g. Apple doesn't distribute their emoji for other
| platforms, do they? Easily more than half of devices on the web
| are not Apple devices. At least 70% as per
| https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share
| eatyourglory wrote:
| Interesting to see that this project has the same license as
| Twemoji.
| tokai wrote:
| What's interesting about it? It's just CC-BY SA.
| creativenolo wrote:
| Objectively the need to attribute limits the usefulness of an
| asset like this at scale or even, when not at scale, by just
| adding complexity to 'do things right'. I'm not saying that the
| limitation is not worth it. But I wonder if creators factor this
| in when choosing a license. If you want to make an artefact that
| reaches a huge scale, become a standard, etc. mandatory
| attribution hinders adoption. If it is about visibility (and ego)
| it makes sense. If it is about profit by limiting commercial use,
| maybe but why not just make it paid for and profit from all uses.
| [deleted]
| zoidb wrote:
| Nice to see this posted on HN! A while back ago I used them for
| the design of a site a built https://cmdchallenge.com/ which
| gives it a nice feel of achievement badges without using standard
| emoji characters that may look different depending on the client.
| techn00 wrote:
| I prefer Noto Emoji: https://emojipedia.org/google
|
| imo the best ones are on Apple, and I'm saying this as an android
| user which happens to use Signal (which uses the apple emojis)
| speak_plainly wrote:
| Microsoft Teams has some of the most consistently designed
| emoji:
|
| https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/view-all-availabl...
|
| Apple's are good but are not super consistent in terms of
| style.
| guitarbill wrote:
| Apple's, Noto, and OpenMoji are far more legible to me than
| Teams. I'll take being able to quickly recognize the emojis
| over consistency any day.
| bloopernova wrote:
| I _loathe_ the Teams emoji, but then again the entire
| application is utterly awful. I'd much rather use these
| openmoji in something like Slack or Matrix.
| hbn wrote:
| Their tongue out emoji (which I use quite frequently) looks
| ridiculous. Pretty much every emoji set has a neutral
| looking face with the tongue out, indicating a very slight
| amount of unseriousness. Meanwhile the Teams one has big
| anime-esque smiling eyes that looks straight up goofy.
|
| Also their thumbs up has such a fat hand you can barely
| tell it's a hand or where the fingers are.
|
| But yes, far from the biggest issues with this stupid app.
| dustincoates wrote:
| I will die on the hill that the blobs were the best emoji and
| Google should have never gotten rid of them.
| vanderZwan wrote:
| I agree. FWIW, they've returned (somewhat) in the black and
| white version of noto emojis
| hbn wrote:
| The only important function of emojis should be to display
| the same idea or emotion to the viewer as was intended by the
| person who sent it. We're in a much better state now with all
| the emoji sets slowly converging to look the same, compared
| to years ago when Samsung's grimace emoji looked
| constipated[1], or their eye roll emoji looked like a cute
| smile while everyone else's was clearly a sarcastic eye
| roll[2], causing many a miscommunication.
|
| The blobs were nice in a vacuum, but in most usages they
| weren't an accurate reflection of the intent of either the
| person sending them, or what the person seeing them was
| supposed to see from the sender. They made the right move
| switching away.
|
| [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/6bk8i1/sam
| sun...
|
| [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/7gm5f6/come_on_
| guy...
| KronisLV wrote:
| They were very cute!
|
| Here's a page with more information for anyone curious:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blob_emoji
|
| If they didn't need them, kind of wish they had been released
| in a way that'd allow for making an online collection that
| can be used for apps/websites. Right now all I could find
| were some Discord servers that'd let you use them on that
| particular platform or something like that.
| doublepg23 wrote:
| They are very popular on the Fediverse.
| cglong wrote:
| They're in the Emoji Kitchen (Gboard on Android)! Try
| combining the magic wand with any smiley:
| https://emojikitchen.dev/
| [deleted]
| totetsu wrote:
| Related in name only. Open emoji battler https://game.open-emoji-
| battler.community/
| [deleted]
| pimlottc wrote:
| If you want to just see the emoji set, I found the listings at
| Emojipedia [0] to be nice than OpenMoji's page [1], which only
| shows a few per page.
|
| 0: https://emojipedia.org/openmoji
|
| 1: https://openmoji.org/library/
| al_be_back wrote:
| looks like an opensource icon framework to me
| sverhagen wrote:
| Yeah, I came here to ask if the professionals in this field
| draw a clear distinction between icons and emojis. I did a
| quick search in there for names of icons for which in my little
| frontend projects I use like Bootstrap Icons, and the results
| seemed fine. So, are icons and emojis really all the same
| things? Because, if so, Openmoji seems to offer quite a bit
| more elements to pick from.
| hannes0 wrote:
| They are all pictograms
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictogram Emojis are
| sometimes ideograms https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideogram
| slmjkdbtl wrote:
| Not sure if there's a consensus on the definitions,
| personally I use word "icon" to describe small graphics that
| serves functional purpose in GUI, and word "emoji" to
| describe small graphics that expresses one's personal
| emotion.
| tuukkah wrote:
| Sure, most emojis can be useful as icons and vice versa.
|
| Technically, both can be available as SVG files and as
| Unicode characters in a font.
| beardyw wrote:
| Just looking at the source, the SVGs can be made smaller. Would
| be good to have a minified set.
| [deleted]
| Theodores wrote:
| These are great. I wanted a few icons of food things and
| everything I wanted is here.
|
| I was procrastinating on HN putting off this task, these emoji
| have bounced me back into doing, not procrastinating.
|
| Thanks to whomever posted this.
| dvrp wrote:
| Why is open-source ugly in general?
| RockRobotRock wrote:
| These emojis grew on me after a while. I still think Twitter's
| open source emojis look better, but this is a really cool project
| that shows off more creativity.
| drewmate wrote:
| Some pretty delightful (ab)use of ZWJ[0] to come up with unique
| new "characters":
|
| * nail and gear flag [1]
|
| * united federation of planets flag (star trek) [2]
|
| * HAL 9000 [3]
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-width_joiner
|
| [1]
| https://openmoji.org/library/emoji-1F3F3-FE0F-200D-1F4CC-200...
|
| [2]
| https://openmoji.org/library/emoji-1F3F3-FE0F-200D-1F7E6-200...
|
| [3]
| https://openmoji.org/library/emoji-25C9-FE0F-200D-1F534-200D...
| [deleted]
| gizajob wrote:
| I'd love the flag of Aboriginal Australia to be included too! I
| always think it's really disappointing that it isn't included
| anywhere, particularly if Star Trek is going to be represented.
| Any help?
| ugh123 wrote:
| Well, it _is_ open source...
| BeFlatXIII wrote:
| Time to make a Pegasus emoji using racehorse+ZWJ+wing.
| jonathankoren wrote:
| Galaxy? When Vulcan salute was RIGHT THERE!
| pimlottc wrote:
| These are cool, it would be nice if there were also waving flag
| versions to match the styles of the leading emoji sets (eg
| Apple and Google). Most of them use some form of wavy flag:
|
| https://emojipedia.org/flag-european-union#designs
| LordDragonfang wrote:
| >nail and gear flag
|
| Huh. Hello, Tim.
| ryeights wrote:
| Gone but not forgotten!
| darau1 wrote:
| Can I finally have my :dumpster-fire: emoji?
| klaustopher wrote:
| Oh wow. I really love the drawn style of those!
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