[HN Gopher] SpaceX broke its record for number of launches in a ...
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       SpaceX broke its record for number of launches in a year
        
       Author : CharlesW
       Score  : 20 points
       Date   : 2023-09-10 19:03 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
        
       | marcooliv wrote:
       | Who are their customers? Do they have private companies hiring
       | them?
        
         | asadotzler wrote:
         | This year they launch for USSF, OneWeb, Nasa, SES, SDA,
         | Intelsat, ViaSat, Iridium, Axiom, ArabSat, PT Pasifik, ESA,
         | Echostar, Maxar Technologies, Northrop Grumman, Jared Isaacman,
         | German Intelligence Service, Astranis, Korea Aerospace
         | Industries, South Korea, Ovzon, plus several dozen smallsat
         | operators and of course SpaceX's own Starlink.
        
           | marcooliv wrote:
           | Awesome, thanks for sharing!
        
         | daedalus_j wrote:
         | By launch volume they are their own biggest customer with
         | Starlink.
         | 
         | However, if Amazon wasn't so up their own ass about not using
         | Spacex rockets, they'd probably be buying almost as many
         | launches to get their project Kuiper constellation up. If
         | they're able to manufacture enough satellites that is.
         | 
         | Which is where the whole "who are their customers" story gets
         | interesting. There aren't any customers of spacex rockets who
         | do as many launches as Starlink does, because the industry
         | hasn't yet caught up to the launch capabilities spacex
         | provides. But they launch for a number of governments, as well
         | as commercial companies.
         | 
         | And not just satellites, but manned missions too! Axiom space
         | has flown non-governmental missions to the ISS, and is planning
         | their own space station. The inspiration 4 mission was a
         | privately-purchased free-flight with only civilians onboard,
         | and was the furthest away any human had been from earth since
         | STS-103 in 1999, at 380 miles.
         | 
         | The world is just starting to catch up to the capabilites
         | offered by modern launch companies!
        
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           | matthewdgreen wrote:
           | If Starlink subscribers are (eventually) paying for the non-
           | government for-profit side of launch services (and there is
           | at least one competing network being built to compete with
           | it), what are the economics of that project? How many
           | customers can be served by satellites like these, and how
           | much do you have to charge each customer to make those
           | systems profitable?
           | 
           | ETA: I know a simple answer is something like "all
           | residential broadband use" but I assume in practice there are
           | some technical limits that cap the number of
           | customers/bandwidth that can be delivered.
        
           | tiffanyh wrote:
           | > _"if Amazon wasn 't so up their own ass about not using
           | Spacex rockets"_
           | 
           | Amazons entire company model is to create businesses that it
           | needs for itself 1st, and then sell the excess capacity.
           | 
           | Why change now by using SpaceX?
        
       | avmich wrote:
       | Wait till Starship will start flying.
       | 
       | It's a known Musk's statement that Starship launch will be
       | cheaper (so called "flyaway cost") than Falcon 1. While this
       | remains to be seen, a lot is done in that area which reduces
       | costs of flying hardware since it's reused, reduces operational
       | expenses on Earth, since the stages are supposed to fly back to
       | Mechazilla, and what remains is fuel cost. Not only fuel cost, of
       | course - but many other large expenses are compensated by design.
       | And the fuel is relatively cheap, so - if all goes, as Palpatin
       | says, according to plan - flights will be cheaper and may be more
       | numerous, partially because they're cheaper.
        
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       | ThrowawayTestr wrote:
       | SpaceX has made rocket launches routine and boring. People only
       | take note when a test rocket blows up.
        
         | KyleBerezin wrote:
         | It amazes me that I now find rocket landings ordinary.
        
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