[HN Gopher] Starship is ready for its 2nd test flight
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       Starship is ready for its 2nd test flight
        
       Author : alentred
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2023-09-06 18:24 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
        
       | dmarcos wrote:
       | Says not before middle of Sept. Would love to go. Anyone else
       | trying to time a trip?
        
       | ansible wrote:
       | The timing for the staging is interesting. On the one hand, you
       | want to light the Starship engines (the 2nd stage) while the
       | SuperHeavy (1st stage) is still accelerating the entire stack.
       | This is to keep the propellants at the bottom of their respective
       | tanks to prevent any bubbles going into the engines. The Starship
       | then needs to be under sufficient thrust to accelerate just as
       | the SH cuts its engines so that the two stages can separate
       | safely.
       | 
       | I'm sure it will be exciting. I just hope sufficient SH engines
       | remain running long enough to try the staging event.
        
         | panick21_ wrote:
         | Interesting how fast they switched to that.
        
           | ansible wrote:
           | The "spin the entire stack" was an interesting approach to
           | staging as well. It is theoretically very simple and elegant,
           | by just using the existing RCS thrusters for separating. It
           | wasn't clear to me if this also obviates the need for a
           | propellant settling burn on StarShip. I'd think it wouldn't,
           | but I'm not sure. There is still a thin atmosphere at the
           | staging altitude, so if StarShip is pointed in the right
           | direction after separating, it should be de-accelerating
           | slightly in the direction of travel.
        
             | LorenPechtel wrote:
             | Which would be the reverse of what you want, it would push
             | the propellant away from the engines.
        
       | chasd00 wrote:
       | I thought for sure pad repairs would have taken longer than they
       | did. I'll have to start getting back in the livestreams and get
       | caught up on developments. I saw that the latest static fire was
       | successful in that all engines ignited.
        
         | orost wrote:
         | Preparations for pad repairs and upgrades were well underway
         | before the first flight - the question was not whether they'd
         | be necessary, but how much and how soon. In particular if I
         | remember correctly manufacturing of the steel plating that now
         | forms the pad started all the way back in January.
        
         | MilStdJunkie wrote:
         | It's not the two months that was promised, but 6 mo is still
         | _astonishing_. I keep wondering to myself, _where is this money
         | coming from?_ , but then I remember just how much cash we
         | straight up torch in traditional mil-spec aerospace. Without
         | anything to show for it, natch.
        
         | cududa wrote:
         | Caveat: I realize that any Musk related conversations come
         | across as combative and either vilifying him or blindly
         | following him - that's not my intention here. That said,
         | personally I can't stand the man, but I'm a huge fan of SpaceX.
         | 
         | After the last launch attempt, every article said the launchpad
         | repairs would take a year or more, without any explanation, and
         | it seemed like everyone just started repeating it as an
         | "obvious fact".
         | 
         | That never made sense to me given the launch tower was mostly
         | intact. So, asking in good-faith: Why did you think the pad
         | repairs would take longer? Do you have an experience in the
         | space, or is it just that you read the repeated "year or more"
         | estimate and internalized it?
        
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