[HN Gopher] Experimental archaeologist tested out Stone-Age livi...
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       Experimental archaeologist tested out Stone-Age living on the
       Thames
        
       Author : bookofjoe
       Score  : 49 points
       Date   : 2023-09-04 21:39 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | kypro wrote:
       | This is probably one of the better ways to understand how
       | neolithic people lived.
       | 
       | I visited a really interesting place last year that does similar
       | reconstruction archaeology,
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castell_Henllys
       | 
       | At one point I was in one of their reconstruction huts and they
       | had a large open fire in the centre to keep warm. I was surprised
       | to find they had no chimney system so the hut was full of smoke.
       | If I recall correctly they said it was because the hut was made
       | of wood so they couldn't build a chimney and it would be a fire
       | risk if they put the fire closer to the edge. I questioned
       | whether it was bad for their health that they were breathing in
       | so much smoke and one of the researcher there said, "I don't
       | know, but we'll find out".
       | 
       | It's an interesting iterative approach to learning about history.
        
       | johngossman wrote:
       | She has an interesting website
       | https://www.theresaemmerich.com/personal-bio
        
       | lifeisstillgood wrote:
       | I did a reasonable amount of "bushcraft" in my youth, and the
       | academic community was just beginning to open up - but I miss the
       | opportunities now.
       | 
       | Fantastic to see this new wave of academic take up. Must dig out
       | my back pack
        
       | totetsu wrote:
       | Not Neolithic, but the BBC did a great series of series of living
       | history shows
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_historic_farm_series
        
         | arethuza wrote:
         | The BBC had multiple families living for a year in Iron Age
         | conditions back in the 1970s:
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_in_the_Past_(TV_series)
         | 
         | I can _just_ remember watching it as a child.
        
       | automatic6131 wrote:
       | The Thames as in the Thames where London, England is?
       | 
       | That's a very different river now to what it was in the stone
       | age. I know it's practically a canal along many parts of it,
       | especially upstream around Henley.
        
         | odiroot wrote:
         | Especially that there's plenty of locks on the way.
        
         | badcppdev wrote:
         | The Thames is 215 miles long and while there are portions that
         | are 100% wrapped in civilisation I think there are areas in
         | both the tidal and non-tidal sections that are totally wild.
         | 
         | Obviously experimental archaeologists have to try and ignore
         | airplanes, plastic bag waste, and their own good health and
         | shiny teeth but I think this kind of activity is amazing.
        
           | scatters wrote:
           | The nearly entire length of the river is navigable, with the
           | flow controlled by locks and weirs. This isn't to minimize
           | their achievement, but they didn't have to contend with
           | rapids, shallows or swamps like the river would have had back
           | in the stone age.
        
           | shmageggy wrote:
           | "Totally wild" is probably an exaggeration, considering there
           | is virtually nowhere in southern England that could
           | reasonably be considered totally wild.
        
             | thworp wrote:
             | There isn't a totally wild area larger than a few square
             | kilometres anywhere west of Warsaw in Europe.
        
           | bboygravity wrote:
           | Huh no shiny teeth? Why?
           | 
           | Weren't the teeth of the average person back then much
           | shinier because... no sugar?
        
             | tmoravec wrote:
             | Not really, because:
             | 
             | * No dentists
             | 
             | * Not brushing teeth
             | 
             | * Plenty of sand, stones etc. in food (in particular,
             | grinding grain with traditional millstones introduces a ton
             | of sand in the flour).
             | 
             | * Many more diseases and infections that have negative
             | impact on mouth biome and pH.
             | 
             | It's a common trope to point out white teeth of Hollywood
             | actors in historic films.
        
               | Cthulhu_ wrote:
               | > Not brushing teeth
               | 
               | People have practiced dental hygiene since forever:
               | 
               | > Since before recorded history, a variety of oral
               | hygiene measures have been used for teeth cleaning. This
               | has been verified by various excavations done throughout
               | the world, in which chew sticks, tree twigs, bird
               | feathers, animal bones and porcupine quills have been
               | found. In historic times, different forms of tooth
               | cleaning tools have been used. Indian medicine (Ayurveda)
               | has used the neem tree, or daatun, and its products to
               | create teeth cleaning twigs and similar products; a
               | person chews one end of the neem twig until it somewhat
               | resembles the bristles of a toothbrush, and then uses it
               | to brush the teeth. In the Muslim world, the miswak, or
               | siwak, made from a twig or root, has antiseptic
               | properties and has been widely used since the Islamic
               | Golden Age.
        
               | greggsy wrote:
               | use of the miswak is likely to be the only consistent
               | practice though, mainly because it is so intertwined as a
               | habitual religious practice.
        
               | rprospero wrote:
               | Also worth mentioning that Catullus[1] recorded
               | performing oral hygiene with both water and... let's say
               | ammonia.
               | 
               | [1] http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/e39.htm
        
               | greggsy wrote:
               | The damage caused by grit in ground grains is probably
               | the most significant, and was also evident in Native
               | American tribes.
        
         | hnlmorg wrote:
         | The Thames cuts across nearly the entire width of England
        
         | regularfry wrote:
         | I've rowed the Thames from Lechlade to Teddington, years ago
         | now. The upper reaches are a bit hairy in terms of
         | under/overgrowth but you're into something that's navigable and
         | not over-managed quite quickly, from memory.
         | 
         | There are very built-up stretches, but there are also parts
         | where it's just... water. Going through green fields. For
         | hours. The biggest difference I can imagine with the stone age
         | isn't the river itself, it's what's on the banks. It would have
         | been far more wooded than it is now; lots that's currently farm
         | would have been forest, and from that point of view foraging
         | would probably have been a lot easier.
        
       | willis936 wrote:
       | Little surprise this level of survivalist has been on Alone. I
       | highly recommend the show.
        
         | prawn wrote:
         | She has a novel shelter structure too.
         | 
         | (Have watched 12+ seasons of Alone. If you want to dip your
         | toes in, seasons 6 and 7 are great, 3 and 8 half decent too.
         | The Australian season is a bit miserly, while the UK version
         | just finished was fairly budget/amateur.)
        
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         | hamburga wrote:
         | And apparently she was also on "Surviving the Stone Age."
         | Fittingly.
        
       | beezlewax wrote:
       | There's a really great YouTube channel called Primative
       | Technology where the guy without talking works his way through
       | iron age tech. Building kilns and smelting iron eventually. Put
       | the subtitles on for extra info. It'd be great to see something
       | similar about the stone age. Obviously more basic but it'd give a
       | great insight to how these people might have lived.
        
       | hamburga wrote:
       | The Stone Age is such a ridiculously broad time period.
       | 
       | From Wikipedia[1]:
       | 
       | > The Stone Age was a broad prehistoric period during which stone
       | was widely used to make stone tools with an edge, a point, or a
       | percussion surface. The period lasted for roughly 3.4 million
       | years and ended between 4,000 BC and 2,000 BC.
       | 
       | So, 3.4 million years out of (generously) the last (3.4 million +
       | 6,023) years were the Stone Age. 99.82% of "human" history (of
       | course appreciating that modern homo sapien didn't appear until
       | 300,000-ish years ago).
       | 
       | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Age
        
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