[HN Gopher] Double Commander - Changes in version 1.1.0
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Double Commander - Changes in version 1.1.0
Author : niel1
Score : 98 points
Date : 2023-09-06 11:53 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| xuhu wrote:
| I wish bash had a way to pop up a tree view that let me select
| the source or destination for a command (like tar or sftp or
| anything). And remember the locations for these two trees (source
| & destination) independently.
| bityard wrote:
| https://github.com/antonmedv/walk
| niel1 wrote:
| Some of it can be achieved by Midnight Commander, maybe?
| [deleted]
| canistel wrote:
| Double commander has an ultra-powerful multi-file renamer hidden
| within. Select files and press Ctrl+M.
| dewey wrote:
| Many people are not aware of that, but Finder also has that
| included. Select multiple files > Right Click > Rename
| euroderf wrote:
| Whoa! Thanx for that ptr.
| dharmab wrote:
| Windows has a PowerRename tool available in PowerToys
| niel1 wrote:
| It has been my daily driver for almost a decade, when my license
| for Servant Salamander (from altap.cz) expired. I like the
| configurability with external tools apart from rock solid core
| functionality. I would like to see Everything (from voidtools)
| Integration like in Total Commander.
| (https://www.ghisler.com/everything.htm)
| kwanbix wrote:
| And now is freeware. I don't know if that is a good or a bad
| thing (will they keep updating it?).
| niel1 wrote:
| Salamander last update was 07/01/2019 so I really doubt it.
| Would not need it anymore though, considering advantages of
| Doublecmd and that is in active development since 2007.
| smokel wrote:
| _> Double Commander is a free cross platform open source file
| manager with two panels side by side. It is inspired by Total
| Commander and features new ideas._
|
| Total Commander was inspired in turn by Norton Commander [1], the
| colors of which still form an afterimage in my eyes.
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Commander
| ags1905 wrote:
| Total Commander is on a whole different level of refinement and
| optimization.
|
| Double Commander is good, indeed, but has some rough edges.
|
| DC uses some components that are made by different authors and
| that are not that flexible and users ask for features which are
| beyond what those components can offer. So this is a dead end
| since nobody is updating/adapting the components so the features
| could be implemented.
|
| DC has only two listed active developers, one of which is the
| author and the other one is new and fixes mostly Mac problems. If
| someone knows Free Pascal and Lazarus IDE or is interested in
| contributing, it would be to the benefit of all the users. I
| imagine it is not a trivial task to keep this program running on
| Windows/Linux/Mac with only two people.
|
| For Windows, Unreal Commander is also good. Also Free Commander,
| but it is the slowest of all the orthodox file managers.
| 7839284023 wrote:
| For Windows I liked Directory Opus (paid) the most [1].
|
| I miss it daily on Linux.
|
| [1] https://www.gpsoft.com.au/
| nwellinghoff wrote:
| Looks neat but a copy costs a third the price of windows.
| Hard sell.
| BruceEel wrote:
| Very cool, will definitely try out this version. Wondering if
| it's now possible to change the color scheme of the viewer,
| that'd be nice. (Colors used to be more or less hardwired to
| black on white, IIRC).
| yelling_cat wrote:
| Have any Forklift users here on MacOS tried Double Commander? A
| two-panel file manager of some kind is a hugely useful
| productivity tool, I'm just wondering if there's a reason to
| switch to this one. If not I'll give it a go when I have some
| free time.
|
| If anyone on MacOS doesn't have a similar tool already you should
| definitely grab this. A two-panel file manager that supports bulk
| renaming is really handy.
| samstave wrote:
| Anyone here recall the AMAZING PMV (PathMinder) for dos from
| back in the day - I have yet to find a better file management
| tool than PMV was... I could navigate everything via arrows and
| keyboard - I loved it.
|
| Ill have to try this.
| kstrauser wrote:
| I use Forklift. Version 4 just came out this week, with a new
| quasi-subscription model. Now it's $20/yr, or $35 for 2, but
| you can keep using the final version that comes out during your
| subscription period. That's not awful but I'm still
| disappointed.
|
| My first impression: this is clearly not a "Mac-assed Mac
| app"[0]. The fonts are weird (but configurable). The keyboard
| shortcuts are weird (but configurable). The preference pane
| isn't under the "Double Commander > Settings" menu, but
| "Configuration > Options", and it doesn't open with "cmd-,",
| and that doesn't seem to be configurable.
|
| _These are not deal breakers._ Different doesn 't
| automatically mean bad. In this case, it _does_ mean that you
| have to learn how to use it from scratch, compared to something
| like Forklift or Commander One that someone used to Finder can
| pick up and start using. It also doesn 't seem to come with a
| zillion integrations with cloud services like S3, Box, etc.
| like the Mac-native options.
|
| These are my first impressions. I've used it for maybe 20
| minutes now. That's not a fair shake, and it could be that I'd
| absolutely love it if I kept at it. Still, it doesn't make me
| _want_ to keep at it. I could see Double Commander being
| brilliant if I already used it on Linux and wanted to bring my
| workflow, settings, plugins, and all that to Mac. I don 't
| think I'd want to start using it here.
|
| [0] https://inessential.com/2020/03/19/proxyman
| yelling_cat wrote:
| Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. It looks like
| I'll be sticking with Forklift 3 for the long haul.
|
| I did just install Double Commander on my Steam Deck, though.
| It's a vast improvement over Dolphin.
| busyant wrote:
| Wondering if anyone has tried this on MacOS and what their
| thoughts are.
|
| May sound weird, but DC and my DC configurations are one of the
| few things that have kept me from moving to Mac, since I can't
| really find a detailed description / review of how well it works
| on Mac.
| dewey wrote:
| Maybe https://www.fileside.app would be worth a try for you?
| busyant wrote:
| Thanks for the suggestion. I feel like I've seen a million of
| these types of apps for MacOS, but not this one.
| zRedShift wrote:
| I use DC on my Mac, works just as well as on Linux, some of the
| touchpad gesture sometimes changes the font size and I have to
| reconfigure it once in a while when I accidentally do them,
| haven't figured out a simple way to prevent this from
| happening.
| busyant wrote:
| Thanks very much. Super helpful!
| greggsy wrote:
| Screenshots for anyone like me who learns like that:
| https://doublecmd.sourceforge.io/gallery/
| z500 wrote:
| If the link doesn't work, try copy pasting into a new tab
| instead of clicking.
| h4ch1 wrote:
| What could be the reason that clicking won't work and pasting
| will? Is it something to do with referrer policy?
| z500 wrote:
| I assume that's what's going on, I guess to discourage
| hotlinking.
| justsomehnguy wrote:
| A wrongly configured hotlinking protection.
|
| The actual URL is
| https://doublecmd.sourceforge.io/gallery/index.html and
| the default behaviour is to redirect to index.html if no
| filename given, but due misconfiguration it requires no
| referrer on it too.
| [deleted]
| niel1 wrote:
| For extending using Lua :
| https://doublecmd.github.io/doc/en/lua.html
| FpUser wrote:
| My workhorse on Linux desktop. On Windows still use Total
| Commander out of habit which is pretty much the same. Midnight
| Commander for text mode
| niel1 wrote:
| I keep the same set of configuration on Linuxes and Windows.
| Works best for muscle memory.
| dazzawazza wrote:
| FreeBSD: doas pkg install doublecmd-qt5
|
| (there is a gtk variant as well doublecmd-gtk2-1.0.11_1)
|
| It's good but nothing touches Directory Opus for me.
| neoneye2 wrote:
| Directory Opus, what makes it good?
|
| I have seen DOpus mentioned several times over the years. is it
| keybindings, features, performance?
|
| What is your impression of "Worker"?
| http://www.boomerangsworld.de/cms/worker/
| busyant wrote:
| What features does DO have over DC?
| mariusor wrote:
| In my experience this is the best non TUI orthodox file commander
| available on *nix machines.
|
| The amount of dedication that was poured into it to make it as
| close to TotalCommander as possible is nothing sort of amazing.
| [deleted]
| BeetleB wrote:
| How does it compare to midnight commander?
| baal80spam wrote:
| IMO it's the best (or one of the best) for Windows as well -
| because it's so feature rich and is free and open source in
| contrary to TC.
| eviks wrote:
| how can it be one of the best if it's not even good? For
| example, it lacks a must have undo feature (just like TC), so
| you can't easily recover from accidentally deleting the wrong
| selection of files
| philonoist wrote:
| What alternative do you suggest, If I may ask without any
| intent of rhetoric?
| eviks wrote:
| Directory Opus is the best file manager on Windows
| BeetleB wrote:
| I take it you consider most UNIX utilities (cp, rm, etc) to
| be bad because they lack an undo?
| mariusor wrote:
| I think the target audience for orthodox file managers are
| people that accept, or can live with, the consequences of
| irreversible file operations.
| eviks wrote:
| the target audience can continue to live dangerously,
| doesn't mean the app can't add this basic feature to be a
| contender
| Borg3 wrote:
| Think twice click once. I suggest you use that maxima or
| one day you will accidently delete yourself. And this is
| inreversal operation. ;)
| jasonjayr wrote:
| I am fascinated by your position. Why would it be a must-
| have operation? What's wrong with tools that take you as
| close to the machine as possible? We used to have tools
| that could manipulate the FAT on disk directly readily
| available!
|
| And, IIRC, both TC + DC support deleting to the recycling
| bin. I know they do, because it's one of the first
| options I disable when setting them up on a new computer.
| amne wrote:
| Just like when I burn my pancakes. I so wish I could CTRL+Z
| IRL. Those files are gone. Adios. Please don't tell me you
| use "Recycle Bin".
| stronglikedan wrote:
| Of course I use recycle bin. Why wouldn't I use a great
| tool for the job? It would be negligent not to, when it
| or similar is available on the OS I'm using.
|
| Even this tool uses recycle bin. It may not have a ctrl-z
| to undo a delete, but it doesn't permanently delete
| unless explicitly requested.
|
| Comparing pancakes to file management is an apples to
| oranges comparison.
| samstave wrote:
| Just like the garbage company in IRL... You place it in
| the recycle bin, but at the end of the day, it all ends
| up in /dev/null anyway...
| eviks wrote:
| If only there were a difference between the physical
| world and a digitalworld..
|
| (and of course I use recycle bin, it'd be dumb not to)
| rob74 wrote:
| I won't tell you to use the recycle bin if you don't want
| to, but DC supports deleting to the recycle bin if you're
| so inclined (Del/F8 deletes to recycle bin, you have to
| press Shift for "hard" delete)...
| BeetleB wrote:
| Any idea how it compares to Far Manager
| (https://www.farmanager.com/)?
| malkia wrote:
| Long time Far Manager and midnight commander/mc user. Just
| being at the terminal is good enough for me.
| dantondwa wrote:
| I agree, I use it on Windows and it's an amazing piece of
| software.
| jksmith wrote:
| Freepascal/Lazarus with some compression code in C.
| vladstudio wrote:
| If you're on Mac, you might also want to try Forklift - by
| coincidence, they just released major version 4 yesterday (for
| which I was lucky to develop some of UI).
|
| https://binarynights.com/
| jeffcox wrote:
| Another Mac native (though much older) choice is Path Finder,
| which I used and loved for years before Finder stopped sucking.
|
| https://www.cocoatech.io
| sepbot wrote:
| Darn, they pulled a Sublime Text on us. The new annual payment
| licensing model is unfortunate, I wouldn't have helped with
| beta testing if I knew this is what they were going to do. It's
| not really a service and historically they haven't been putting
| out a stream of useful new features on a regular basis to
| justify the subscription.
| dang wrote:
| Related:
|
| _Double Commander_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32331716 - Aug 2022 (156
| comments)
|
| _Double Commander - A twin-panel, cross-platform, file manager
| (FOSS)_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13796038 - March
| 2017 (1 comment)
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