[HN Gopher] Yenish people
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       Yenish people
        
       Author : merename
       Score  : 48 points
       Date   : 2023-09-03 19:59 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | fuzztester wrote:
       | At first I thought this was about a variant of the Romani people,
       | due to having talked just a few days ago with an Italian guy who
       | was half Jewish and half Romani.
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       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people
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       | We had a talk about the Romani, the discrimination against them,
       | and some other interesting topics.
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       | I mentioned to him that, as a teenager, I had read a book titled
       | Lavengro, a fictional work about a gypsy, by George Borrow.
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       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavengro
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       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Borrow
        
       | DrDroop wrote:
       | Reminds me a bit of the Cagot people who lived around the border
       | region between France and Spain. These people where hated,
       | discriminated and prosecuted for more then a thousand years while
       | people had forgotten what they ever did to deserve this. Already
       | in the 16th century the Pope published a edict saying let
       | bygones-be-bygones and forgave them for whatever perceived crime.
       | Historians don't believe they where ever responsible for this
       | perceived crime and that the Pope probably knew this but forgave
       | them anyway in a hopeless attempt to stop the discrimination.
        
         | ithkuil wrote:
         | I didn't know you actually had to "do" something to deserve to
         | be discriminated against and persecuted. Generally you just
         | need to "be"
        
           | nine_k wrote:
           | Crimes would usually be ascribed to the hated group as an
           | afterthought.
        
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       | sakex wrote:
       | We have some people of the road in Geneva. I'm not sure if
       | they're Yenish or not but the usually arrive at the beginning of
       | Spring and leave at the end of the Summer.
        
         | mortureb wrote:
         | Where do they go in winter?
         | 
         | That being said, a nomadic lifestyle sounds so interesting and
         | romantic. Too bad most nomads are heavily discriminated
         | against.
        
           | detourdog wrote:
           | For a while I really wanted to be a Bedouin like. In the end
           | it just didn't seem to be realistic. I ended up getting a job
           | like everyone else. It just didn't seem right.
        
       | fuzztester wrote:
       | We have Banjara / Lambadi people in India, who are like gypsies.
       | 
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjara
        
       | merename wrote:
       | Other links
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       | https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/society/threatened-minorities_n...
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       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Z3X7yTiDQ
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       | https://www.equaltimes.org/the-cultural-genocide-committed
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       | https://historum.com/t/the-yenish-yeniche-people.127900/
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       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariella_Mehr
        
         | tetris11 wrote:
         | Is your name related to Mariella Mehr?
        
           | merename wrote:
           | No and I didn't even notice. I just learned about her today
           | and thought her background was interesting, not to mention
           | tragic. I wonder if anyone here has read her memoir?
        
       | placesalt wrote:
       | The song 'Move Along', by Tommy Makem and Liam Clancy, about
       | Gypsies / Irish Travellers, is very affecting:
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/vV7suDUeXSc?t=286
        
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