[HN Gopher] Lidl Product Recall [pdf]
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Lidl Product Recall [pdf]
Author : Tomte
Score : 230 points
Date : 2023-09-01 10:07 UTC (12 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.lidl.co.uk)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.lidl.co.uk)
| nneonneo wrote:
| Check the whois on the site (appykidsco.com): it's registered to
| someone in Jiangsu, China, and they seem to own a _lot_ of other
| domains: https://website.informer.com/email/muskseo1971@gmail.com
|
| Seems like one of these automated domain-takeover attacks: watch
| for expiring domains, snap them up the moment they expire,
| replace them with porn ads, profit.
| siva7 wrote:
| I can't even tell if this product is meant for dog or human
| consumption.
| Karellen wrote:
| If you don't have kids, or none of your close family do,
| there's no reason you would be aware of the brand, but if you
| do they're astonishingly popular and almost impossible not to
| be aware of :-)
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAW_Patrol
|
| > PAW Patrol is a Canadian computer-animated children's
| television series
|
| > The series has been sold to TV networks in over 160
| countries.
|
| > In 2016, the season two episode "Pups Save a Mer-Pup" was
| nominated for Best Animated Television/Broadcast Production for
| Preschool Children in the 43rd Annie Awards. As of 2023, PAW
| Patrol has received twenty five Canadian Screen Award
| nominations with twenty wins.
| drcongo wrote:
| It's known as Piss Poor Patrol in this house.
| CTOSian wrote:
| butter/chocolate for sure not for dogs...
| butterNaN wrote:
| Poor choice of mascot then
| manojlds wrote:
| Didn't grow up watching things like Bugs Bunny and Tom and
| Jerry?
| jandrese wrote:
| It's a tie in product to a popular cartoon series.
| dredmorbius wrote:
| Reading the article my first interpretation was that dog treats
| were being confused for human, and/or vice versa.
| lioeters wrote:
| Quoted below to save you a click. Sounds like it's not a problem
| with the products themselves, but their website got hacked.
|
| ---
|
| Important Notice: Product Recall
|
| Paw Patrol All Butter Mini Biscotti Biscuits x 5
|
| Paw Patrol Choc Chip Mini Biscotti Biscuits x 5
|
| Paw Patrol Yummy Bake Bars Raspberry Flavour x 5
|
| Paw Patrol Yummy Bake Bars Apple Flavour x 5
|
| Batch affected: All stock
|
| * Lidl GB is recalling the above-mentioned branded product as we
| have been made aware that the URL of the supplier which is
| featured on the back of the packaging has been compromised and is
| being directed to a site that is not suitable for child
| consumption.
|
| * We recommend that customers refrain from viewing the URL and
| return this product to the nearest store where a full refund will
| be given.
|
| We apologise for any inconvenience caused and thank you for your
| cooperation.
| selimthegrim wrote:
| Wow, that Saw Patrol tie-in is coming in earlier than expected.
| Ylpertnodi wrote:
| >directed to a site that is not suitable for child consumption.
|
| Given the foodi-ness, surely 'consumption' could have been a
| better word. Oh, I don't know..."viewing"?
| Otek wrote:
| > Quoted below to save you a click
|
| I hope not many people are reading a comment section before
| article.
| TeMPOraL wrote:
| I _always_ check HN comments before the article. The comments
| play a big part in deciding whether I even _want to_ read the
| article.
| croisillon wrote:
| tbh i rarely click on the tfa
| gruturo wrote:
| I always check out the HN comments first. The HN comments
| don't assault my browsers with popups, ads, awful styling and
| who knows what else. I may learn what the article is about
| (not always clear from the title of the submission) and be
| warned of other people's reactions (like "WOW that giant
| flashing thing on page 2 can trigger a seizure!" or "Site
| hijacks back button!" or even more importantly, "Article is a
| waste of time, author has it all wrong. Here's an
| authoritative source which explains why").
|
| I may or may not risk a click at all if there are no
| comments.
|
| I do read the article before commenting though. (Well.... not
| this time, but it's kind of a meta topic)
| benterix wrote:
| I have automatic PDF downloads configured as the built-in
| browser PDF viewers are often subpar. So for sure I will
| check the comments before deciding if I want to click on a
| PDF link (in this case: I don't).
| Greenpants wrote:
| I, for one, often glance at the comments first to check if an
| article is valid. If not, there's probably a highly rated
| comment explaining what's wrong with an article's facts or
| reasoning.
|
| Saves me not just a click, but lots of time reading lesser
| quality articles too.
| foul wrote:
| Sometimes I have the arrogance to have an expectation of what
| could I read there on the article, so I read the comment
| section on HN first to find unexpected insight or a POV I
| wouldn't find boring, for better or worse.
| geek_at wrote:
| Reminds me of the time I was buying a windshield for my 2001
| Ford Focus and I had troubles on the website and by chance
| found out they link a js file from a non registered domain so I
| registered it and watched the traffic.
|
| Seems to have been used on multiple sites and when a site loads
| js from a compromised site you can do anything on the site.
|
| I reported it four times and after 6 months they still didn't
| fix it.
|
| https://blog.haschek.at/2019/threat-vector-legacy-static-web...
| ipython wrote:
| I like your ssh-to-comment system! Clever!
| nneonneo wrote:
| The domain is available again; I wonder if anyone is still
| using those scripts?
| mrelectric wrote:
| You have a very cool site sir.
| Thomashuet wrote:
| Their website was not really hacked, it was just abandoned and
| someone else registered the domain and put porn there.
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| foobarian wrote:
| TIL Paw Patrol brand is popular enough in Europe to have
| product tie-ins
| TeMPOraL wrote:
| Isn't it literally why it exists - to push stuff to kids?
| It's pretty much a way to work around regulations pertaining
| to advertising to children.
|
| At this point in Poland we have a Paw Patrol variant of
| literally anything a kid could use or consume - from regular
| and electric toothbrushes, through clothes, sheets, toys,
| shower gels, food, beverages. Whatever you think of, there's
| a version with a Paw Patrol dog being sold somewhere.
| croisillon wrote:
| same with Peppa Pig i guess
| TeMPOraL wrote:
| Not to the same extent. Paw Patrol seems to be its own
| category, rivaled only by Frozen.
| Cthulhu_ wrote:
| The copaganda seems reasonably popular with young kids, if
| toy stores and the like are anything to go by.
| lenzm wrote:
| Paw Patrol was created by a toy company to sell products.
| They design the new products with each new season which
| includes new vehicles/accessories/etc.
| Waterluvian wrote:
| Canadian culture infiltrating the world, one pup at a time.
|
| Though Bluey is definitely the better product.
| blamazon wrote:
| There's a new one in the mix too, called Pupstruction,
| which seems to be Disney's "this is legally distinct from
| paw patrol" entry. Watch Disney Junior and you'll see a lot
| of Bluey and Pupstruction.
|
| Bluey is still king to me, but Pupstruction being centered
| around construction rather than law enforcement is a
| positive distinction in my eyes.
| adam-a wrote:
| There seems to be a weird popular misconception about Paw
| Patrol being some sort of police recruitment propaganda
| for toddlers. I've (unfortunately) had to sit through
| hundreds of episodes and it really isn't. The police dog
| is not particularly treated as a main character as all of
| them are given pretty equal screen time and storylines
| (out side the recent film, which does focus on him). And
| even when the episodes do focus on Chase it's barely
| police work, certainly he doesn't go around pointing his
| gun at immigrants. His main ability as a police officer
| seems to be that he has a megaphone.
| autoexec wrote:
| > And even when the episodes do focus on Chase it's
| barely police work, certainly he doesn't go around
| pointing his gun at immigrants.
|
| If he did go around pointing is gun at immigrants that
| would be the opposite of police propaganda wouldn't it?
| Most young kids don't interact with police directly, so
| nearly everything they know about police comes from the
| media they consume. The question comes down to what kids
| need to learn about police and what role media plays in
| that education. Families in certain communities have been
| educating their children on how dangerous police are for
| a very long time.
|
| Is it better to introduce an idealized version of police
| to kids and let them learn on their own that police are
| dangerous or is it better to present police in children's
| media realistically so that they're prepared when they
| see their 8 year old classmate thrown to the ground,
| handcuffed, and arrested because they acted up in class
| or so they understand when they see protesters march past
| their house because police officers beat and murdered
| another person on camera without consequences?
|
| I suspect that it's better to show kids what police are
| supposed to be like before introducing them to the
| harsher reality we live in, but I can't blame people for
| looking at shows like Paw Patrol and thinking that it's
| giving kids a very unrealistic view of policing at a time
| when they should be increasingly made aware of the issues
| and the risks they face.
| TeMPOraL wrote:
| Indeed. And _even if_ it had some police propaganda, this
| wouldn 't be that bad anywhere in the developed world
| _except_ the US. The perception of police spending most
| time harassing minorities and exacerbating humanitarian
| crises? That 's a _US_ problem. Literally no one else has
| it. Which is what makes the attitudes to LEO that US
| exports sad, and perhaps even dangerous.
| civilitty wrote:
| _> The perception of police spending most time harassing
| minorities and exacerbating humanitarian crises? That 's
| a US problem. Literally no one else has it._
|
| France just had weeks of riots because the police shot
| Nahel Merzouk [1] due to similar dynamics that have been
| developing in France since at least the Algerian crisis
| [2]. I don't know if "spending most time" is a fair
| characterization of French minorities' perception but the
| antagonistic relationship between police and minorities
| is far from a US only problem.
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahel_Merzouk_riots
|
| [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_massacre_of_1961
| stavros wrote:
| I think that merely the fact that people are bothered
| enough to riot shows that the problem in the US is much
| more extended, where shootings by the police were such an
| everyday phenomenon that the biggest reaction you'll get
| is an extra-high shrug.
| rsynnott wrote:
| Well, also, it is _France_; proud tradition of very large
| dramatic protests and riots going back over two hundred
| years. It's kind of their thing. French farmers routinely
| shut down whole cities when they're vaguely irritated
| about something; it's unsurprising that protests around
| more serious and emotive matters than France enforcing an
| EU ban it was already meant to be enforcing on a
| pesticide get a bit dramatic.
| stavros wrote:
| I don't know if that's just a France thing, I remember
| here (Greece) ten years or so ago, when a police officer
| shot a teenager, and the whole country was in flames for
| a week from the riots. There are still marches and
| protests every year, on the anniversary.
| civilitty wrote:
| The French do love a good riot but don't forget that the
| George Floyd protests just a few years ago were the
| largest in US history - during pandemic lockdowns, no
| less. They devolved into something resembling riots in
| only a few cities but "extra-high shrug" is hardly how
| I'd describe that series of events or the other smaller
| protests since. The Minneapolis ones only wrapped up in
| May of this year after the criminal cases were resolved.
|
| I think with US suburban sprawl it's just a lot easier to
| ignore what's going on in the cities.
| stavros wrote:
| Ah, interesting, I may be wrong then. I remember the
| George Floyd protests, but didn't know of any more
| recent.
| FirmwareBurner wrote:
| _> Canadian culture infiltrating the world, one pup at a
| time._
|
| Maple syrup was already here
| konschubert wrote:
| Bluey is just very different.
|
| You can tell that it is made with love.
|
| I think if my daughters weren't watching it, I would watch
| it alone.
| hotnfresh wrote:
| I only recently saw Bluey for the first time (only one of
| my kids is still, barely, in the demo for it).
|
| God damn it's good. It'd be a solid choice for a lazy
| Saturday afternoon of getting baked and zoning out on TV,
| even for those without kids. Mellow, funny, you get little
| wins to root for, and some fun bits that go over kids'
| heads. Rare for a show targeted _that_ young to be as
| appealing to (or, at least, tolerable for) adults. Far
| better than, say, Daniel Tiger, which is already well above
| the bottom tier of that kind of show.
|
| [edit] incidentally, I think Fred Rogers would have been
| disgusted by all the heavy-handed auto tune in Daniel
| Tiger. Giving kids a wildly incorrect model of what
| ordinary, real human singing sounds like strikes me as the
| kind of thing that would have prompted him to bring down
| the "no" hammer on his own show _in a damn hurry_ , if
| someone had suggested it. Bugs me every time I watch it.
| Al-Khwarizmi wrote:
| I also love Bluey but I think we might be somewhat
| biased, because it clearly makes an effort to cater to
| adults as well (most chapters can be seen as being about
| parenting, and sometimes contain non-obvious lessons for
| parents). Perhaps from the viewpoint of a child it
| wouldn't be so superior to other cartoons.
|
| Although it does have the quite objective advantage of
| not being overstimulating. Most current cartoons look
| _overwhelmingly_ overstimulating for me as an adult, and
| move at such a fast pace that in some I can barely follow
| the action, and we throw them at small kids...
| RandallBrown wrote:
| > Perhaps from the viewpoint of a child it wouldn't be so
| superior to other cartoons.
|
| My friend's son LOVES Bluey. When it's on TV or a phone
| he'll stare at it without blinking for as long as it's
| on. I didn't notice it until another friend asked why he
| was crying and his dad told us he just doesn't blink when
| Bluey is on.
| Al-Khwarizmi wrote:
| Just to clarify, I didn't want to imply that it cannot be
| great from the viewpoint of the kids. Just that for most
| parents it tends to be the uncontested best among shows
| for that age, miles ahead of any competitor without a
| second thought (an opinion that I myself share) while for
| kids it's probably just one more that some may prefer
| while others don't.
|
| My son does like it quite a lot, and it prefers it to
| many others such as Dora, Spongebob, Paw Patrol or the
| infamous Peppa Pig, but he will choose PJ Masks or
| Superkitties over Bluey, and those two I find... not very
| good, to be honest. Especially Superkitties.
|
| Your friend's son has great taste in cartoons, although
| not blinking might be taking it a bit too far :)
| Waterluvian wrote:
| There are entire episodes of Bluey that are pretty much
| therapy for parents. And there's episodes that celebrate
| being a parent. There's even episodes that bring tears to
| my eyes every time, even having seen them half a dozen
| times.
|
| - Baby Race
|
| - Bike
|
| - Camping
|
| - Flat Pack (how do they tell a story that deep in six
| minutes?!)
|
| - Sleepytime (yep, welling up just thinking about it now)
|
| - Rain
|
| - Granddad
| konschubert wrote:
| My three year old wants to watch sleepytime every day and
| somehow I don't mind it.
| omnicognate wrote:
| Bluey is by far my kids' favorite show, FWIW.
| autoexec wrote:
| > and move at such a fast pace that in some I can barely
| follow the action, and we throw them at small kids...
|
| I love animation so I end up watching a ton of cartoons
| and I have to agree that shows these days can move way
| too fast. You _can_ tell a whole story in a 5-15 minute
| episode, but telling a story well in that time takes
| serious talent and I 'd love to see what talented writers
| like that could do with a story that had room to breathe.
|
| It matters a lot less for shows with little if any
| continuity but serious story telling needs a lot more
| time. I'd feel better about it if there were a bunch of
| animated shows with 40-60 run times to balance things
| out.
|
| One good thing I'll say about hyper-fast paced animation
| is that it forces the audience to fill in a lot of blanks
| on their own. That could engage a kid's imagination if
| they take the time. I get the feeling that it's the older
| audiences who tend to go nuts with that though.
| russdill wrote:
| A kids show that can include a moment about pregnancy
| loss for the parents is quite the thing to behold.
| konschubert wrote:
| Yes. This show is on another level.
| aequitas wrote:
| My kids really love this show, coincidentally it's even
| on at this moment. Regarding the parenting lessons, they
| resonate with the kids as well. There was an episode
| after which one of our kids compared the story of an
| episode with something that happened in our household and
| it gave us a nice chance to talk about it on their level.
| The Bluey writers really do a terrific job. My kids never
| learned a lesson from Paw Patrol, except wanting to buy
| their merchandise.
| Waterluvian wrote:
| Mom and I had a really emotional moment when 4yo was
| getting incredibly discouraged that he couldn't hit the
| baseball but his older brother could. And 6yo just went
| to him and said "it's okay! Run your own race."
| mrweasel wrote:
| You're not allowed to advertise to children in the EU, so
| shows like Paw Patrol is a brilliant workaround. The show
| itself itself is a product, that can be picked up by various
| TV stations, but it's also an indirect way to advertising the
| toys and other co-branded products.
|
| The show is innocent enough that nobody will complain about
| it, so it's a clever marketing strategy.
| Al-Khwarizmi wrote:
| _> You 're not allowed to advertise to children in the EU_
|
| Maybe in some EU countries, I guess. In Spain, toy ads are
| common. Recently, the government prohibited toy ads that
| are segmented by sex (e.g. marketing dolls or toy kitchens
| specifically for girls) but otherwise there are no limits
| as far as I know.
| isoprophlex wrote:
| My dude/person, it's beyond popular, we have an entire shelf
| in the toy cabinet dedicated to "paw patrol stuff"
|
| There is a full feature paw patrol movie in which one of the
| characters breaks the fourth wall and says "How can we afford
| this? Licenced paw patrol merchandise!". And all the parents
| in the audience groan.
|
| It's pure, unadulterated kiddy crack
| Al-Khwarizmi wrote:
| Sure it is. I'd even go as far as to say that in Spain, it's
| probably _the_ most popular cartoon among 3-5-year olds (I
| have a 4-year-old son who doesn 't especially like it, but
| many of his classmates love it, all of them know it, and
| almost every kid in the neighborhood has some kind of toy,
| stickers, etc. from the franchise).
| harvie wrote:
| _Insert http cookie joke_
| weekay wrote:
| This is very common in retail. What tends to happen is that a
| retail buyer would work with a supplier and order a product in .
| That product packaging will have a promotional or information
| site it will link to & is printed as a QR code. From a buyers
| perspective they are doing this as it's a way to provide value or
| information to their customer and supplier fronts the cost of
| this. The IT teams within retail aren't kept in the loop and
| neither are they aware of a site that is hosting any of this
| content. All the content and marketing of this is done by a
| agency who are hired and managed by the category or merchandising
| teams in the head office . Product sells for a quarter or maybe 6
| months at the most . Products get rotated and goes back to
| warehouse until such time in a year they need to liquidate the
| stock and do promotional discount pricing as part of back to
| school or Black Friday etc., By then the agency that fronted this
| and created the site has lost its domain or the site isn't
| maintained/ gets compromised etc., At that point the product is
| on the shelf , domain is hijacked or the hosting provider / host
| gets taken over by a malicious actor. Then the IT / security
| teams in the retail organisation are asked to step in and support
| their business colleagues. Every major retail corporation will
| have this happen to them at least once a year. IT teams will have
| a laugh about this and nothing ever changes as a process as it
| doesn't really affect the share value or damage the reputation of
| the retailer as such
| b3lvedere wrote:
| One of my customers found out someone copied their website
| almost to perfection under a different domain name and started
| advertising their products for way less prices. They wanted the
| website gone of course. So now i had to explain our company
| doesn't have any jurisdiction on some website hosted on the
| other side of this planet.
| dazc wrote:
| I have recently received a subpoena from 'the other side of
| the world' regarding a domain I registered recently.
|
| It seems the domain in question was one of many involved in
| IP infringement against a global fashion brand long before I
| came along. A simple check of registrar data would confirm I
| have f all to do with this.
|
| Either some big law firm knows different from you or are just
| scamming their client? Surely this can not be the case?
| dmurray wrote:
| I don't think much of the technical or moral chops of big
| law firms involved in the intellectual property game, but
| this seems reasonable to me.
|
| The site was being used to do some bad thing to their
| clients, they're justified in assuming the current owner
| might know something about it. Changing registrars and
| WHOIS info is exactly the kind of thing a shady site might
| do to throw off investigation. If you're fortunate, you'll
| at least get your reply read by someone who can understand
| the plain English of "it wasn't me, I bought the site since
| then" and doing a bit of research to cross check that.
| NikkiA wrote:
| What this needs is a mitm service that gives shortened/custom
| urls like https://prom.os/paw_patrol_biscuits that redirect to
| the vendor's site, and when the promo/limited-run is over the
| url can be 'turned off' in a control panel and then default
| back to a 'This promotion has ended, but visit <vendors general
| site>' for more information on products' or such.
|
| I guess it'd be hard to get companies to use such a service,
| except for situations that cause product issues like this one
| we're seeing.
| jahewson wrote:
| In other words, the biscuits need more shortening.
| kevincox wrote:
| A lot of online QR code generators provide this service
| (often by default without making it clear that they are
| injecting their URL). It can definitely be useful to "change
| the URL" after deploying the code, but you still have the
| same problem that you don't control the domain. If you stop
| making payments or the company goes out of business then you
| are out of luck.
|
| IDK if any of these services support custom domains. So that
| you could have qr.mycompany.example or whatever. That way if
| something goes wrong with the service you can at least direct
| it to something else.
|
| But I think in general you should control your URLs.
| Especially for printed material. Often this would be
| something like a short URL or some other small name that can
| be directed to the intended final site and changed at any
| point.
| hedora wrote:
| Always remember to convert a QR code back to text before
| printing / distributing it.
|
| There are some shady QR code generation sites on the Internet
| that produce codes that work for a week or so, but go to some
| unexpected third-party domain that redirects to your site.
| Later, you find out that you have to pay them a subscription
| fee if you want the QR code to keep working.
| [deleted]
| tetha wrote:
| This is why I've grown even more careful about introducing new
| domains in production.
|
| If I keep everything in one or a small amount of production
| domains, even if a product is shut down, a project ends, and
| everyone has long forgotten about it - it's still hitting my
| load balancers and I can deal with it. Cheaply, too. Some 404
| pages delivered by a loadbalancer probably cost cents or less
| per month. I can also make it a cute branded image based on a
| few conditions as well if you give me that.
|
| And some POs are arguing how this is controlling and how this
| might be constricting freedom and such. And, yes it is. But on
| the other hand, we won't have porn hosted on something the
| company once promoted. Unless the company wants to rebrand as
| such.
| SoftTalker wrote:
| Yeah registering a domain is sort of a permanent act. If you
| ever let it expire, someone else can take it over and start
| receiving all emails, http requests, and anything else
| directed at services you used to run there. And possibly
| responding to them. They'll easily get certificates to verify
| the domain, since all that's needed to do that is control of
| the domain.
| Iulioh wrote:
| "a domain is forever" is kind of a scary thing
| bombcar wrote:
| DNS was designed to delegate subdomains, and we should do
| it.
|
| But easier for every team to grab a new domain.
| rickdeckard wrote:
| Terrible.......so what's the URL and what was on it?
| DonaldFisk wrote:
| Here's a Reddit discussion about the recall:
| https://old.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1662ylp/lidl...
| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| Oops.
|
| Looks like someone ignored the domain expiration emails.
|
| I see that constantly, especially where there's high
| turnover.
| jjgreen wrote:
| The wayback captures page (SFW, but links to recent captures
| rather not) https://web.archive.org/web/20230815000000*/https
| ://www.appy...
| levidos wrote:
| Thank you
| jandrese wrote:
| It's a domain parking page full of ads for Chinese porn apps.
| The company closed shop and some squatters took over their
| domain. A recall seems unnecessary to me, but I'm guessing they
| got complaints and figured this was just safer.
| imp0cat wrote:
| Oh, Chinese hackers attacking Paw Patrol, what's next? Bing
| Bunny gets turned into The "Big" Bunny? ;)
| bombcar wrote:
| Bing Bunny sounds like some misplaced Microsoft promotion.
| padjo wrote:
| Hardly anyone will actually return anything but they get to
| cover their asses by doing this.
| yorwba wrote:
| Eat the cookies, return the packaging? After all, it's an
| issue with the packaging that resulted in the recall.
| mcguire wrote:
| Odds are, if a consumer asked they would tell the
| consumer to just throw the packaging away. In fact,
| that's probably what they would tell a retailer.
| anon____ wrote:
| Consumers won't return it, but the stores will, in bulk.
| That's a lot of lost food because they can't repack or
| relabel it.
| bombcar wrote:
| The recall could instruct the stores to cover the
| offending URL with a sticker. But they'll just say "toss
| 'em".
| bspammer wrote:
| It's not just porn, it's actively malicious. The site tries
| to install a configuration profile (iOS) if you click
| through, presumably to install a root CA or something.
| jiofj wrote:
| This is done usually so you can sideload apps.
| whalesalad wrote:
| the url was appykidsco.com
| WirelessGigabit wrote:
| It still is. Open in mobile view and you'll see.
| mikey_p wrote:
| "Cool URIs don't change" from 1998 is as relevant as ever :(
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23865484
| dredmorbius wrote:
| If URIs aren't permitted to change, they require inalterable
| time and/or content elements to them. Probably
| ownership/authorship as well.
|
| Because otherwise, this becomes an increasingly futile (and
| frustrating) Quixotic quest.
| selectnull wrote:
| Let's all hope w3.org doesn't forget to renew their domain.
| Because if they do, all these links to "Cool URIs don't change"
| will suddenly become extremely ironic. We're safe at least up
| to 2029...
| schnable wrote:
| My Chevy had a recall out to replace one of the pages in the
| manual.
| seabass-labrax wrote:
| I can completely understand the concern with a compromised
| promotional website listed on the packaging, but a full product
| recall seems to me extremely wasteful. Presumably, all those bags
| (which look to me like they're made of plastic) will have to be
| disposed of, if not the actual biscuits themselves.
|
| This is just one factor in a multitude of reasons why single-use
| plastics are wasteful, but I believe that if a company is not
| responsible enough to look after a URL they should not be
| plastering it all over consumer products.
|
| A URL is for life, not just for Christmas. Not sure whether to
| link to the Dogs Trust or the W3C here!
| krisoft wrote:
| > all those bags will have to be disposed of, if not the actual
| biscuits themselves.
|
| Nobody will repackage the biscuits. That is not a thing any
| manufacturer or merchant would seriously consider. Of course it
| will be disposed of.
|
| Just imagine the liability of selling a food product which
| already come back from a costumer.
| kypro wrote:
| Realistically is anyone actually going to return these products
| because of the URL though?
|
| I'd assume it's more damage control in the event someone
| actually does visit the URL because then they can say, "well we
| have recalled these products, sir".
| londons_explore wrote:
| All of the product still in stock in the shop or warehouse
| will be chucked out at the suppliers expense.
| Paianni wrote:
| Well, our expense since we impose a system that makes this
| possible.
| dredmorbius wrote:
| An alternative interpretation is that the cost-of-materials is
| insignificant related to brand dilution and/or the intended
| promotional value of the URLs themselves.
|
| The biscuits may very well have simply been a flytrap of sorts
| (honey), or loss-leader. Disposing of them given that the URL
| is itself no longer useful might well be the pragmatic
| approach.
|
| I also doubt the public will return sold product, though they
| might take actions against the packaging itself. I'd hope that
| unsold stock will be diverted to food banks or other
| noncommercial distributors, though possibly with a provision
| that packaging be covered (stickers or labels?) or removed
| prior to final distribution.
| qingcharles wrote:
| There is nothing wrong with the food, so I hope they at least
| show up at a food bank so poor people like me can get some value
| from them.
| Freak_NL wrote:
| The sad thing is that they won't. Lidl can't risk sending these
| out with the compromised URL on the packaging, and covering the
| URL would take a lot of people in the chain cooperating and
| donating resources to arrange that.
|
| It is cheaper for Lidl just to donate a new batch without the
| URL and destroy the affected batch... The best thing one can
| hope for is that these end up on the break room table at Lidl
| shops, but there are probably rules that prevent that too.
| NullPrefix wrote:
| So you want to use those bad QR codes to hurt poor people?
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