[HN Gopher] Library of Ashurbanipal
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       Library of Ashurbanipal
        
       Author : andrewstuart
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2023-08-31 06:38 UTC (16 hours ago)
        
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       | dantondwa wrote:
       | On the topic, I can absolutely recommend this sublime episode of
       | Fall Of Civilizations on the Neo-Assyrian Empire:
       | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jpAphcaVJIs
        
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       | andrewstuart wrote:
       | Older than the Library of Alexandria, with 30,000 texts found.
       | 
       | Much of the library was written on clay tablets, and when the
       | library was burned, the clay tablets were fired like a kiln,
       | preserving them for thousands of years.
        
       | Perenti wrote:
       | For those interested, there are several videos of Dr Irving
       | Finkel from the British Museum talking about the Library of
       | Asshurbanipal on Youtube.
       | 
       | Dr Finkel is a brilliant speaker and fluent in Sumerian, Akkadian
       | and Assyrian writing systems.
        
         | cjs_ac wrote:
         | This lecture by Dr Finkel on how he discovered the original
         | Babylonian version of the Noah's Ark story is equal parts
         | fascinating and hilarious: https://youtu.be/s_fkpZSnz2I
        
       | usrnm wrote:
       | 7th century BCE
        
       | walthamstow wrote:
       | The subject of a very good episode of BBC Radio 4's In Our Time
       | 
       | https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00b7r71
        
       | laserdancepony wrote:
       | Seventh century BCE, not AD!
        
         | egberts1 wrote:
         | About the same as whether cheesecake is a cake ... or not.
        
         | trackflak wrote:
         | Seventh century _BC_ if we want to be more accurate.
        
           | mrlonglong wrote:
           | Nope, you'll upset people using different calendars. BCE,
           | Before Common Era.
        
             | ithkuil wrote:
             | BC: Backwards Chronology
             | 
             | AD: Advancing Dates
        
             | acheron wrote:
             | Hope you didn't call today "Thursday", you'll upset people
             | who don't worship Thor.
        
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           | mcphage wrote:
           | How is "BC" more accurate than "BCE"?
        
       | DemocracyFTW2 wrote:
       | Title factually wrong and edited, nowhere to be found in the
       | linked article, which clearly states: _Contrary to often-repeated
       | claims, the Library of Ashurbanipal was not the first library in
       | the world. Libraries existed in Sumer, attached to scribal
       | houses, temples, and palaces by the Early Dynastic Period
       | (2900-2334 BCE). Akkadians and Babylonians also had libraries and
       | so did earlier Assyrian kings. Scribes in ancient Mesopotamia
       | also kept private libraries aside from those they would have
       | referenced at the palace, school, or temple. The Library of
       | Ashurbanipal is just the oldest one systematically organized to
       | preserve a comprehensive collection of knowledge (not limited to
       | one subject or type of work) and, owing to the importance of the
       | tablets found there, the most significant._
       | 
       | With being predated by other know collections by ~2000 years,
       | hardly "the oldest known", not by a long stretch.
        
         | andrewstuart wrote:
         | I fixed the title to reflect your observations.
        
           | DemocracyFTW2 wrote:
           | cheers
        
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         | dang wrote:
         | The submitted title was "The 7th century Library of
         | Ashurbanipal is the oldest known library in the world" and then
         | it was edited to "7th century BCE Library of Ashurbanipal is
         | the oldest recovered library".
         | 
         | This submission seems great for HN so I've put it in the
         | second-chance pool (https://news.ycombinator.com/pool,
         | explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308). As
         | part of that, I've reverted the title. Since it will get a
         | random placement on HN's front page, it doesn't need extra help
         | from the title any longer.
        
       | ashurbanipal wrote:
       | You're welcome
        
         | glompers wrote:
         | Nah, we're good, but thanks anyway
        
       | andrewstuart wrote:
       | I hope some mega billionaire is printing all the books and
       | Wikipedia to metal tablets and storing multiple copies in hidden
       | caves around the world, and in low lying areas where the coming
       | floods will hide the tablets and reveal them again when the seas
       | recede in millennia to come.
       | 
       | On a different topic... this episode of the "Fall of
       | Civilisations" podcast is where I heard about the Library of
       | Ashurbanipal.
       | 
       | It's probably the best podcast episode of all time on any topic
       | that I've ever listened to:
       | 
       | https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/13-the-assyrians-empir...
       | 
       | 3.5 hours long!
       | 
       | "Fall of Civilisations" probably being my favorite of all
       | podcasts.
        
         | dantondwa wrote:
         | just commented to write this as well. By coincidence, I have
         | listened to the Assyrian episode today. There is really nothing
         | like it. I also recommend the youtube videos of the same
         | podcast. They are really the perfect companion to this
         | incredible history podcast.
        
           | ulizzle wrote:
           | Oh, yeah, I saw that one too. A scholar and a psycho,
           | excelling both in art and genocide. That podcast is a good
           | one.
           | 
           | Ashurbanipal is also in Civ 5!
        
         | titanomachy wrote:
         | Someone is doing it with clay tablets!
         | 
         | https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/01/human...
        
           | andrewstuart wrote:
           | Hopefully someone will build a pyramid on the Moon and store
           | all the tablets within it. This will fulfill all my science
           | fiction hope and dreams for the human race.
        
             | mordechai9000 wrote:
             | Somewhere past the present orbit of Mars might be nice.
             | People could still visit it after the sun goes red giant.
        
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