[HN Gopher] Burger King faces legal claim over size of Whopper
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       Burger King faces legal claim over size of Whopper
        
       Author : adrian_mrd
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2023-08-30 20:02 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | switch007 wrote:
       | Whoppers are actually disgusting in the UK. They fall apart, the
       | meat is dry, the tomato is anaemic and the bun is devoid of
       | moisture. I'd take a couple of PS1.29 McDonald's burgers any day
       | over a whopper (they must be PS5-7 these days?)
       | 
       | Being the UK, this does not stop people buying them. BK is very
       | popular at service stations for example, despite the high prices.
       | Though I'm sure McDonald's overall is far more popular
        
       | bdcravens wrote:
       | Best outcome is to require BK to give claimants coupons for free
       | Big Macs.
        
       | pieterr wrote:
       | Reminds me of the Hamburger Scene in Falling Down.
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/zJs9p-VNORw
        
       | datavirtue wrote:
       | Hmmm...I'm wondering why we don't include all business news, as
       | this is the least important of all the stories coming across the
       | wire right now.
        
       | sposeray wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | miohtama wrote:
       | As non-US person, what is the motivation of these kind of
       | lawsuits which seem to be ridiculous from a layman perspective?
       | Is it because how the US system is stacked to give a massive
       | payout to a law firm who presents the clients?
       | 
       | As in other countries, people would just stop eating in the place
       | if the food falls short of expectations.
        
         | TylerE wrote:
         | Not so much money, of whcih there is usually very little
         | (exception: stuff that ends up being found to cause cancer)
         | after the lawyers take their giant cut (which is totally fair -
         | these cases are taken on a "you don't get anything, we don't
         | get anything" basis, and the lawyers front all the money for
         | expert witnesses, investigations, etc).
         | 
         | The motivation for the people filing the suit is to _get the
         | company to stop doing it_.
        
         | rurp wrote:
         | These lawsuits change the calculations of other companies
         | tempted to engage in false advertising. The _only_ reason
         | actual Whoppers don 't match what is shown in commercials is so
         | that Burger King can squeeze out a larger profit margin.
         | 
         | Stealing a handful of cents on each transaction isn't a big
         | deal on any one sale, but adds up to a lot at their volume.
         | Corporations have a lot of incentive to be dishonest, and
         | lawsuits are one of the few effective ways to punish that
         | behavior.
        
         | araes wrote:
         | In the US, lawsuits are one of the primary ways used to compel
         | behavior, especially from corporate institutions.
         | 
         | While your solution has merit, it suffers from tragedy of the
         | commons issues. I cannot compel other customers to stop eating
         | there. I cannot compel other fast food restaurants to act
         | better.
         | 
         | Quality version: McD and Wendy's look at BK, and see BK makes
         | large profits selling junk, look at their own process and say
         | "we waste money on quality we don't need", and then they all
         | race to the bottom.
         | 
         | If the situation is bad, and the market mostly colludes (such
         | as with recent price hikes, where everyone knows everyone else
         | is going to raise prices, so they all do), then all you're left
         | with is: "They all act that way, because they know we have no
         | options." All burgers now cost $5 more. Bloomberg at least
         | refers to this phenomenon as "Excuseflation." [1] Also similar
         | to "Shrinkflation." (Products across all stores slowly become
         | smaller)
         | 
         | [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-09/how-
         | excus...
        
       | araes wrote:
       | This case was filed in the US District Court of Florida back in
       | 2022 and has only recently resurfaced.
       | 
       | In a somewhat rare turn, the Daily Mail coverage [1] of this
       | article, is actually quite superior, as it features several
       | direct images from the court documents, including references of
       | "Current Advertisement" vs "Actual Product."
       | 
       | Its not difficult to see why they're mad. From most of the
       | imagery, it looks like BK has an aversion to spending even a few
       | cents on lettuce. The situation's bad enough that most comments
       | amount to "of course it does not look like the ads, they never
       | do." Most are "bad", yet the Spicy Whopper Melt is almost
       | laughable.
       | 
       | My personal view is this might be huge, if the plaintiff's win,
       | as it then sets a strong precedent about the "amount" of truth in
       | advertising, and when is a crushed lump of bread and meat too far
       | from the picture. How much $ do you have to spend making sure
       | what arrives on your plastic tray, or in your take out bag, is
       | kind of close to the picture? At least in the $300+ billion
       | dollar US fast food industry.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10684749/Class-
       | acti...
        
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