[HN Gopher] Shocks to the system: Don DeLillo's novels of the co...
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       Shocks to the system: Don DeLillo's novels of the cold war and its
       aftermath
        
       Author : apollinaire
       Score  : 24 points
       Date   : 2023-08-30 17:31 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | FpUser wrote:
       | I am confused - is this review or a patent application?
        
       | flenserboy wrote:
       | _The Names_ is probably DD 's best novel -- what's not in these
       | particular volumes, however, is his collection of extraordinary
       | short novels that filled the 70s ( _Ratner 's Star_ is the major
       | exception; this is a monster-sized book, and it is a strange
       | precursor to Stephenson's middle work). _End Zone_ , _Great Jones
       | Street_ , _Players_ , and _Running Dog_ are all amazing portraits
       | of the paranoias of the age -- terrorism, bomb fear, rock  &
       | roll, long-running conspiracies. Reading DeLillo alongside JG
       | Ballard's novels of the same era is an education in the social
       | and political undercurrents running through the 70s and early
       | 80s.
        
         | viscanti wrote:
         | The Recognitions by Gaddis gets you the 1950s in similar
         | fashion (and it's clear he was a major influence on those
         | postmodern tome style writers who came later). Pynchon has
         | pretty good coverage of the 1960s. Then DeLillo and Ballard get
         | you through the 1970s. It's fascinating how much history and
         | culture you can pick up through some of these fiction writers.
        
       | wffurr wrote:
       | This essay is unreadable. Such incredibly torturous phrasing. I
       | hope DeLillo's works hang together better.
        
         | sarks_nz wrote:
         | +1
        
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       | skyechurch wrote:
       | The opening chapter of Underworld is one of the greatest things I
       | have read, I can't even explain it because there's almost nothing
       | like it, it's the literary equivalent of a spectacular movie
       | chase scene. Iirc it was excerpted in the New Yorker years ago, I
       | can't find it now there or anywhere, but it made me buy the book
       | despite having sworn off 800 page American novels. The first
       | chapter was still great, but I gave up in boredom ~30 pages later
       | in boredom and have not read another word by him.
       | 
       | It would probably be beneficial if someone could explain what I
       | am missing, or what I should read by him instead, because it just
       | can't end like this.
       | 
       | ... You can read most of it here[1], probably doesn't have the
       | same impact missing the first few pages, but maybe get a flavor
       | of what he's doing it. I don't know what the correct analogy is,
       | but it's definitely something cinematic.
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://books.google.com/books?id=Ug3ArDMHLnQC&printsec=fron...
        
         | jraines wrote:
         | Like others downthread I recommend White Noise. But I highly
         | recommend the Viking Critical Edition -- which will explain
         | what you're missing. (I mean, skip if you loathe postmodern
         | litcrit; but I found the batch of essays/analyses well-chosen
         | and accessible rather than the inscrutable academic katas such
         | things can be)
        
       | widowlark wrote:
       | If you somehow have not yet read White Noise, you should put down
       | whatever you are reading and start it now.
        
         | sbate1987 wrote:
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         | rcme wrote:
         | It was just ok.
        
         | ngai_aku wrote:
         | I _liked_ but didn't _love_ Underworld. Only DeLillo I've read
         | so far, but maybe I need to move White Noise up on my list.
        
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