[HN Gopher] OSM River Basins
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       OSM River Basins
        
       Author : gregsadetsky
       Score  : 76 points
       Date   : 2023-08-30 12:53 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (amandasaurus.github.io)
 (TXT) w3m dump (amandasaurus.github.io)
        
       | coldacid wrote:
       | Nice but it definitely needs to support waterway=stream as well.
        
       | mannykannot wrote:
       | In the American southwest, the map shows a dense network of
       | waterways around Farmington NM, and extending roughly 100 miles
       | E-W and 150 miles N-S, and a similar but smaller region between
       | the Colorado river and the four corners. I would guess that this
       | is an artifact of mapping, as the area is pretty arid, and
       | perhaps a consequence of these being largely Navajo, Apache and
       | Ute lands.
        
       | ianburrell wrote:
       | It does have some problems. The upper McKenzie River in Oregon is
       | shown as separate drainage since there is a break in the river.
       | There are multiple sections in that area that are separate.
       | Bigger one is that the Columbia River is split at McNary Dam.
       | 
       | I'm not sure what needs to be fixed in OSM.
       | 
       | Maybe it needs to detect dams. Or rivers that don't end in the
       | ocean or endoheric lake.
        
         | flusensieb wrote:
         | Some rivers (especially in the US) miss their waterway-line
         | through lakes/reservoirs and the part crossing the dam. These
         | need to be added.
         | 
         | Edit: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rivers Explains it
         | quite well with some graphics.
        
         | troyvit wrote:
         | Cool it looks like the creator is looking for just this
         | feedback here:
         | 
         | https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/osm-river-basins-websi...
        
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       | gregsadetsky wrote:
       | More info: https://github.com/amandasaurus/osm-river-basins
        
         | matkoniecz wrote:
         | and https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/osm-river-basins-
         | websi...
        
       | digging wrote:
       | Interesting to be able to see many waterways being extremely
       | tightly wound and others straightforward over long distances. I
       | wonder if it's an issue of data resolution or actual geography.
        
       | phh wrote:
       | That's beautiful. I'm impressed we can compute related components
       | on a world map so fast. The interconnections everywhere are
       | beautiful. If this data is reliable, you can go from west europe
       | to east china with just 3 changes (largely helped by canals)
       | 
       | It makes me want to make a remotely (4G) controllable solar-
       | powered tiny boat, and see how far I can drive it, though this
       | map lacks the unreachable discontinuities (dam)
        
         | playingalong wrote:
         | > compute so fast
         | 
         | It could be and likely is pre-computed on server side.
        
       | pmontra wrote:
       | It's missing man made channels. Some natural waterways end in a
       | channel which ends in another natural waterway. All of three
       | should be connected but the channel in between breaks the
       | connection and the channel is not marked on the map. Probably the
       | first waterway ended up into another natural one before men made
       | the channel, because water flows no matter what.
        
         | Aachen wrote:
         | Do you have an example?
         | 
         | It sounds like either you're saying the website is missing a
         | tag like waterway=ditch or you haven't seen the "include
         | canals" button or so, but with an example it's probably easiest
         | to tell which. The underlying database probably has the data
         | you're missing
        
           | mannykannot wrote:
           | "Include canals" does not seem to distinguish between canals
           | that have replaced natural drainage channels, and those that
           | connect different watersheds - which may or may not be what
           | you want. This is noticeable, for example, in the English
           | midlands, where the major watersheds merge into one connected
           | entity (maybe because of the network of pre-railroad
           | navigation canals?)
        
           | pmontra wrote:
           | I didn't see the second radio button.
           | 
           | The first one is "only waterway=river"
           | 
           | The second one is "with waterway & name"
           | 
           | It does not refer to canals but the effect is to also include
           | them. Maybe all of them is too much but finding the only
           | canal the merges two waterways could be difficult. No idea.
        
             | samtho wrote:
             | I was able to select waterway and canals and, in
             | California, I was able to see prominent ones like the
             | California aqueduct that runs from Tracy to LA and smaller
             | ones like the south Folsom canal that runs from Lake Natoma
             | to the former nuclear power plant Rancho Seco.
        
       | sampo wrote:
       | A map (and the data) of river drainage basins (American:
       | watersheds) would also be interesting.
        
         | mkl wrote:
         | There are plenty of those:
         | https://duckduckgo.com/?q=world+watershed+map&atb=v279-1__&i...
        
           | sampo wrote:
           | Maybe this site has the data as open source:
           | https://www.hydrosheds.org/products
        
         | tasseff wrote:
         | You may find this useful: https://www.usgs.gov/national-
         | hydrography/watershed-boundary...
        
       | liotier wrote:
       | A 30 seconds look at river basin connectivity around a place I
       | know gives me plenty of JOSM fodder - highly efficient
       | visualization !
        
       | pbmonster wrote:
       | Is there a connection between Rhine and Rhone somewhere? I always
       | get the same color for them. Weird.
        
         | lgeorget wrote:
         | Do you have the canal option checked?
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rh%C3%B4ne%E2%80%93Rhine_Can...
        
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