[HN Gopher] 111,111.1 meters is reliably 1 degree of latitude
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       111,111.1 meters is reliably 1 degree of latitude
        
       Author : mholt
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2023-08-27 17:00 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | NelsonMinar wrote:
       | This post also has a nice rule of thumb that 111,111 *
       | cos(latitude) meters is 1 degree of longitude. I like the
       | correction! In practice you can use some simple constants; 25deg
       | is about 100,000 meters. 44deg is about 80,000 meters. 57deg is
       | about 60,000 meters.
        
       | delta_p_delta_x wrote:
       | The metre was originally defined in 1791 as one ten-millionth of
       | the quarter-meridian, or ninety degrees of arc, through Paris.
       | 
       | It then follows straightforwardly that 1deg [?] 1/90 x 10^7 m =
       | 111 111.111... m.
       | 
       | It also follows straightforwardly that the circumference of Earth
       | is approximately forty million metres, or 40 000 km.
        
         | aappleby wrote:
         | And a 32-bit integer can represent latitude or longitude to an
         | accuracy of around 1 centimeter :D.
        
           | OscarCunningham wrote:
           | Call that a long long.
        
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       | gp wrote:
       | 1 nautical mile (~6076 ft) is exactly one minute of arc at the
       | Earth's equator.
       | 
       | As a sailor, I wish that all miles were nautical miles because
       | they have a real meaning. What good is 5280 feet?
        
         | _dain_ wrote:
         | I wish those medieval people had defined it as 5040 feet, then
         | it would be divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14,
         | 15, 16, 18, 20, 21, 24, 28, 30, 35, 36, 40, 42, 45, 48, 56, 60,
         | 63, 70, 72, 80, 84, 90, 105, 112, 120, 126, 140, 144, 168, 180,
         | 210, 240, 252, 280, 315, 336, 360, 420, 504, 560, 630, 720,
         | 840, 1008, 1260, 1680, and 2520.
        
           | chungy wrote:
           | Connecting 1 mile to 5280 feet happened many centuries after
           | the medieval period. Such precision wasn't really possible
           | nor desired before the 18th century.
           | 
           | To be specific, 5280 feet = 1 mile didn't happen until 1959
           | and the United States needed higher precision and remove all
           | the fuzziness out of the units. It might be inconvenient on
           | some aspects, but it was also "close enough" to what miles
           | were already established to be.
        
             | _dain_ wrote:
             | >To be specific, 5280 feet = 1 mile didn't happen until
             | 1959 and the United States needed higher precision and
             | remove all the fuzziness out of the units. It might be
             | inconvenient on some aspects, but it was also "close
             | enough" to what miles were already established to be.
             | 
             | uh what? are you sure you're not mixing that up with the
             | international geophysical year or something? the mile has
             | been 1760 yards since before the US even existed. it's
             | called the imperial system because of the british empire.
             | they couldn't have done the great trigonometrical survey of
             | india without an accurate mile.
        
         | delta_p_delta_x wrote:
         | Most other 'mile's are derivatives of the Roman mile which
         | developed somewhat independently of the English units (foot,
         | yard, inch, barleycorn, etc), ergo the weird conversion
         | factors.
         | 
         | In fact, 1 nmi [?] 1.852 km exactly.
         | 
         | Also from the original definition of the metre: 1/60 x 1/90 x
         | 10^7 = 1851.85185185... m.
         | 
         | Inter-convertability was a defining trait of SI (or more
         | precisely, its predecessors, MKS and CGS) from the very outset,
         | which is why we have 1 m [?] 1 s [?] 1 kg [?] 1 N [?] 1 Pa [?]
         | 1 J [?] 1 A [?] 1 C [?] 1 V [?] 1 O [?] 1 F [?] 1 W [?] 1 Wb
         | [?] 1 T [?] 1 H [?] 1 Hz (I use '[?]' loosely here to suggest
         | conversion factors, rather than its usual meaning of
         | equivalence).
         | 
         | The only outliers in the SI are the kelvin, the mole, and the
         | candela (and derived units from these). The former two are
         | dealt with straightforwardly with the Boltzmann and Avogadro
         | constants. I have issues with the presence of the candela in
         | the SI.
        
         | burlesona wrote:
         | Interestingly, a mile was originally the less surprising 5000
         | feet. But in the 1500s the English changed the mile to be 8
         | furlongs, as that made for much easier math around the
         | agricultural measurements of the time.
         | 
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furlong
        
         | opwieurposiu wrote:
         | A mile is 5280 feet because it is 80 chains (survey chains)
         | long. The chain's length is a byproduct of English land tax
         | laws which were by the acre.
         | 
         | The roman mile was 1000 paces, or 5000 feet, which made a bit
         | more sense.
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunter%27s_chain
        
       | HPsquared wrote:
       | And 1 nanosecond at light speed [?] 1 foot
        
         | stereo wrote:
         | And the number of seconds in a year is p*10^7, or close enough.
        
         | chungy wrote:
         | That's remarkably close to reality. I'm impressed :)
         | $ units c ft/ns                 * 0.98357106
        
           | maxmcd wrote:
           | Admiral Grace Hopper Explains the Nanosecond:
           | https://youtu.be/9eyFDBPk4Yw
        
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