[HN Gopher] I Can Eat Glass
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       I Can Eat Glass
        
       Author : vector_spaces
       Score  : 186 points
       Date   : 2023-08-27 15:33 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | NoZebra120vClip wrote:
       | How interesting to use a comma splice in a phrase that's purpose-
       | built for translations. I wonder if that was a deliberate choice.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_splice
        
         | abdullahkhalids wrote:
         | Surprised this article doesn't mention "The king is dead, long
         | live the king!"
        
       | NoZebra120vClip wrote:
       | It is strange that Wikipedia claims that this became a meme, yet
       | knowyourmeme.com is completely unaware of its memeness. That
       | website is typically a solid source for the dankest and/or most
       | obscure memes you ever met.
        
         | hunson_abadeer wrote:
         | I Can Eat Glass was definitely a thing, but in the late 1990s
         | or perhaps very early 2000s. Sites such as knowyourmeme.com
         | don't go nearly as far back.
        
           | [deleted]
        
           | NoZebra120vClip wrote:
           | The website was first picked up on the Internet Archive in
           | 1999. I had no trouble finding memes from 1994-1996 on KYM,
           | such as "Dancing Baby", "Ate My Balls", and "Goodtimes
           | Virus".
           | 
           | In fact, clicking that "year:1994" turns up 108 results, so
           | they're pretty comprehensive, although they only cover Web-
           | based memes, usually with images, and not Usenet.
        
           | themaninthedark wrote:
           | The Everything2 entry is dated April 12 2000.
        
         | mherdeg wrote:
         | Knowyourmeme is very late to the meme game. Entire
         | civilizations of memes flourished and decayed on 4chan, fark,
         | Slashdot, YTMND, and the bare metal internet long ago.
         | 
         | Bonsai Kitten is lost to the ravages of time.
        
           | jj999 wrote:
           | What is the bare metal internet? Is it a series of tubes?
        
             | yellowapple wrote:
             | An information superhighway, if you will.
        
               | falcor84 wrote:
               | Is that what it was like before it was (re-)made of cats?
               | 
               | https://youtu.be/zi8VTeDHjcM?si=ZSQ7tFjidj0BlZhf
        
           | NoZebra120vClip wrote:
           | I suppose if by "lost" you mean "extremely well documented
           | with 457 thousand views" then yes, Bonsai Kittens are lost
           | forever?
        
           | Tao3300 wrote:
           | > Entire civilizations of memes flourished and decayed
           | 
           | Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
           | 
           | And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
           | 
           | Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
           | 
           | Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
           | 
           | The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
           | 
           | And on the pedestal these words appear:
           | 
           | "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US"
        
           | bowsamic wrote:
           | > Bonsai Kitten is lost to the ravages of time.
           | 
           | https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bonsai-kittens
        
             | thih9 wrote:
             | Some external links in that article were mildly disturbing
             | to me, bonsai babies in particular, I do not recommend
             | clicking randomly.
        
             | ModernMech wrote:
             | I liked it better when the internet was made of cats. Now
             | there are too many dogs and it's not as fun.
        
               | Tijdreiziger wrote:
               | http://i0.kym-
               | cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/007/447/yes...
        
           | ooterness wrote:
           | "Ah, you think dankness is your ally. But you merely adopted
           | the dank; I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the
           | memes until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me
           | but BLINDING!" -Fark, probably
        
         | Maken wrote:
         | You can help to complete the archives.
        
         | hamolton wrote:
         | KYM is super biased in what ends up there, as it leans heavily
         | towards 4chan and Reddit content, with heavy amounts of Twitch
         | and certain genres in YouTube. It's missing a lot of memes
         | popular among girls, especially from Tumblr. Similarly, it
         | doesn't have a lot of TikTok trends & tropes that I'd consider
         | to be memes.
        
       | techload wrote:
       | Once I met a young man who was able to eat glass, literally. I
       | saw, right in front of me, him break a glass with his teeth, chew
       | the pieces until they were very fine, and swallow everything. To
       | prove that he wasn't hiding the pieces in his mouth, he made a
       | point of opening his mouth wide and showing that he had indeed
       | swallowed them.
        
         | kemayo wrote:
         | Given that you don't mention seeing blood, this was almost
         | certainly just someone playing a prank by eating sugar glass.
         | It's slightly thickened melted sugar that you've let set into a
         | thin pane. Looks just like glass, but it's really rock candy
         | and so you can break it up and chew it.
         | 
         | https://www.inthekitchenwithmatt.com/edible-sugar-glass
        
           | techload wrote:
           | No. It was a glass from the bar, and a thick walled one.
           | There was no blood. He did this thing several times. He did
           | not die, as I met him several years after. It is a glass like
           | this one, common in Brazilian bars:
           | 
           | https://youtu.be/xwrn2h8iAdw
        
             | kadoban wrote:
             | I'd still think it's more likely it was a magic trick or
             | scam.
        
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               | techload wrote:
               | There are a lot of people who do this, amazing and
               | unbelievable as it may seem.
               | 
               | https://youtu.be/WUuMybRysjE
               | 
               | https://youtu.be/O8ifaTHbMTo
               | 
               | https://youtu.be/JFnGsGnlkAI
               | 
               | https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5OdkhtMEqMo?feature=share
        
             | kemayo wrote:
             | With only minor collusion with the bartender, you can just
             | arrange to be given a glass _made_ of sugar-glass.
             | 
             | https://www.makeyourownmolds.com/how-to-sugar-glass-mold/
        
             | augusto-moura wrote:
             | You probably mean a Copo Americano (American Glass) [1].
             | Also note, that eating glass is also a common magic trick,
             | David Blaine is famous for doing it [2], I'm not sure how
             | real is the glass though
             | 
             | [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copo_americano
             | 
             | [2]: https://youtu.be/MewROa1EU_o?si=Vysz1UfyWV44AEd_&t=83
        
         | NikolaNovak wrote:
         | I have seen enough amazing sleight of hand and trickery that I
         | just always assume there's something I'm not seeing. One would
         | be hard pressed to prove to me alone that they are eating real
         | broken proper glass.
         | 
         | If,say, Penn & Teller were in the room with me witnessing the
         | effect yp close and said "actually I think that's legit" then,
         | maybe. I'd give it some benefit of doubt. But I've learned my
         | humility when it comes to limits of my observational
         | capabilities and knowledge of magic tricks / what to look for.
         | 
         | So why I 100% believe that's what you saw, I approximately 0%
         | believe that's what happened :-/
         | 
         | (that being said, if they chewed it very very very well, then..
         | Maybe? But basically I'd need external verification for
         | anything that's susceptible to sleight of hand and other
         | trickery, especially street performances where I know I'm
         | massively out gunned :-)
        
           | CharlesW wrote:
           | "Eat Lightbulbs Without Getting Hurt":
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpCw5ZnP5o
        
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         | vanviegen wrote:
         | Swallowing ground glass is not actually all that dangerous. [1]
         | The trick would be in chewing carefully, without your mouth
         | becoming a bloody mess. Seems doable, maybe, though I don't
         | feel any urge to try it any time soon. :-)
         | 
         | [1]: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ground-glass-deadly/
        
       | russellpekala wrote:
       | I love this. My coworkers and I call ourselves glasseaters since
       | we're all so scrappy.
       | 
       | The guy who started this translation project (per the wikipedia)
       | was himself a startup founder
       | https://www.linkedin.com/in/emollick/.
        
       | janalsncm wrote:
       | The Mandarin translation is incorrect. The he chose close
       | homophones of the right words, but they have the wrong tones. You
       | can verify this by translating the image back to English.
        
         | Tao3300 wrote:
         | What are you translating with? Google seems to get the right
         | result by translating "Wo Neng Tun Xia Bo Li Er Bu Shang Shen
         | Ti " as "I can swallow glass without hurting myself"
         | 
         | Of course, that doesn't mean Google is correct.
        
       | EGreg wrote:
       | When I was in Julliard pre-college music school, there was a girl
       | I had a crush on. She was from South Africa and I wanted to
       | impress her. But being 14 years old, I didn't want to say
       | something cheesy. So I asked my Dutch friends how to say this (it
       | is the same in Afrikaans)...
       | 
       | Beware of the giant chicken! It will eat your hair.
        
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       | ftxbro wrote:
       | For anyone who doesn't know, the student who made the 'I Can Eat
       | Glass' project is Ethan Mollick. He's now a professor at Wharton
       | and in my opinion he is the best public LLM whisperer!
        
         | dr_dshiv wrote:
         | He is the best
        
       | dr_dshiv wrote:
       | "Mi hermano esta enfermo pero mis pantalones son rojos."
       | 
       | This was my favorite bombastic phrase in Spanish--for the same
       | purpose: to be "viewed as an insane native, and treated with
       | dignity and respect"
        
       | yellow_lead wrote:
       | > Saying "I can eat glass, it does not hurt me", however, ensures
       | that the speaker "will be viewed as an insane native, and treated
       | with dignity and respect".
       | 
       | Since context is such an important part of many languages, this
       | almost guarantees no one will understand you unless you have
       | perfect pronunciation
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | pluijzer wrote:
       | The nuance of the Dutch translation is slightly wrong, possibly
       | implying eating glass in general doesn't hurt. Just a heads-up
       | for those going to the old archived website in search of medical
       | advice.
        
         | gattilorenz wrote:
         | If you go by reported pronunciation it says "hij", doesn't it?
         | Just don't text/write it and it will be ok.
        
       | mabbo wrote:
       | I asked chatgpt the following:                  Please translate
       | the sentence  "I can eat glass, it does not hurt me" into 50
       | different languages. Include a pronunciation guide for English
       | speakers for each.
       | 
       | And was not disappointed at all.
        
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       | LoveMortuus wrote:
       | I read the title as grass and got excited...
        
       | loxias wrote:
       | Awesome. I remember this from the early internet. I think from
       | everything2. An older code, but it checks out.
        
       | carabiner wrote:
       | insane -> dignity, respect
       | 
       | ?
        
         | inopinatus wrote:
         | Enoch Root wants to borrow your bicycle.
        
         | jj999 wrote:
         | Dignity and respect result from fear. Who would you fear most
         | between the tourist and the insane?
        
         | saghm wrote:
         | Well, yeah, that's the joke; it's not actually supposed to be a
         | useful resource, but something fun and silly
        
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       | wonger_ wrote:
       | One of the external links is a page that uses translations of the
       | phrase as a UTF-8 rendering test. It has 150 translations,
       | including some weird ones like Old Norse: ek get eti th gler mn
       | thess ath ve rtha sar and Inuktitut: alicoq niriyaraangakko
       | soranngittonnaqtonga
       | 
       | http://www.columbia.edu/~fdc/utf8.html#glass
        
       | codezero wrote:
       | I used to play online games at an hour when a lot of Japanese
       | players were online, I asked my sister who was studying Japanese
       | for some phrases to say and this was one of them. Now I know
       | where she got it from! I also used this phrase when I was
       | visiting Australia and met two Japanese guys at a bar, they
       | thought it was hilarious.
        
       | Semaphor wrote:
       | 2019, 84 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21121982
       | 
       | Mainly anecdotes about fun language confusions ;)
        
       | vic-traill wrote:
       | >Saying "I can eat glass, it does not hurt me", however, ensures
       | that the speaker "will be viewed as an insane native, and treated
       | with dignity and respect".
       | 
       | Well, I'm not sure where Michel Lotito [0] (aka Monsieur
       | Mangetout) fits w/ this ...
       | 
       | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Michel_Lotito
        
         | Akronymus wrote:
         | huh, seems as if there slipped an addition / in there. Which
         | broke my redirection, but still worked. Which makes me curious
         | as how that happened in the first place.
        
       | emodendroket wrote:
       | I was just thinking about this the other day; how strange to see
       | that others remember and were thinking the same.
        
       | jandrese wrote:
       | > Saying "I can eat glass, it does not hurt me", however, ensures
       | that the speaker "will be viewed as an insane native, and treated
       | with dignity and respect".
       | 
       | If there is anything rambling insane people get it is dignity and
       | respect.
        
         | kadoban wrote:
         | Given the context, the probability of that being tongue-in-
         | cheek has to be quite high.
        
           | NoZebra120vClip wrote:
           | On second thought, keep your tongue away from your cheeks
           | whilst eating glass, lest it get shredded up.
        
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         | lo_zamoyski wrote:
         | I think this assumes people are more respectful to their own,
         | at least overtly, than to guests, but this is an incomplete
         | view. In cultures where hospitality is high, guests are treated
         | with a hospitality and patience that is not extended to the
         | locals. Furthermore, foreigners are more likely to be viewed as
         | people unfamiliar with the conventions and customs of the
         | region, and therefore some reasonable patience is shown,
         | whereas locals are expected to be on top of such things.
         | 
         | What insane people get isn't dignity and true respect, but
         | avoidance!
        
         | version_five wrote:
         | Obviously tongue in cheek but also largely true. Tourists are
         | targets for all kinds of scams. Less so local crazies.
         | 
         | Nobody is actually going to belive an obvious foreigner
         | shouting a crazy phrase in accented local language is actually
         | a local, but they still may steer clear and scam someone else
         | (if this was meant to be taken seriously, it obviously isn't).
         | 
         | There's that "real Ghostbusters" cartoon where the street
         | toughs ask Egon what he's doing and he said something about
         | ectoplasm or whatever, and one of the toughs asks the leader
         | why he left him alone and he says 'I don't mess with anyone
         | weirder than me"
        
       | twism wrote:
       | I had tons of friends who could do this literally in primary
       | school (Nigeria) .. and it was normal. It's funny the things you
       | pick up as a kid in Nigeria that people look at you in amazement
       | when you do it. For instance, the awes I get when I crack open a
       | beer bottle with my teeth. Granted every kid in Nigeria could do
       | this (soda bottles) since they were 6.
        
         | twism wrote:
         | Come to think of it I'm now curious how this is possible. With
         | cracking open bottle tops, it is all leverage (not strength,
         | power, or some physical gift) but I would think chewing glass
         | has got to be some special type of skill or physical ability. I
         | didn't have a curious mind for it then since I didn't think it
         | was a special skill although I did not dare try it as it seemed
         | to me as dangerous as it sounded
        
         | throw1234651234 wrote:
         | All fun and games until a piece lodges in your throat. A lot of
         | professional performers mostly count on things sitting right,
         | and then die when they don't. E.g.:
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirin_Dajo
        
           | NoZebra120vClip wrote:
           | Then again, there's Stevie Starr, who's passed the ripe old
           | age of 60, and still going strong with swallowing and
           | regurgitating all manner of crazy stuff:
           | https://youtu.be/WVVLyZKtIbI?si=sFDuCGXpdO-CbP8K
        
         | MaKey wrote:
         | > For instance, the awes I get when I crack open a beer bottle
         | with my teeth.
         | 
         | People might be in awe because they are thinking about what it
         | does to your teeth.
        
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       | thenewwazoo wrote:
       | What synchronicity! My work slack status is currently this
       | phrase, in Swahili, translated by a recent hire with whom I
       | connected over love of language.
       | 
       | The one time I have been able to bust out my knowledge of Swedish
       | (limited to this one phrase) in order to try and flirt, the focus
       | of my attentions was... not impressed. I couldn't tell if it was
       | because I was not impressive, or just a cultural mismatch. In any
       | case, it didn't discourage me from continuing to learn.
        
         | asabla wrote:
         | It could also be that ice cream is very close to glass in
         | Swedish. Matter in fact ice cream in Swedish is actually
         | spelled the same as glass.
         | 
         | So depending on how well you pronounced it, you may just have
         | said: I can eat ice cream, it doesn't hurt
         | 
         | edit: added a missing word
        
           | hnarn wrote:
           | For those wondering, single consonant means slow vowel,
           | double consonant means fast vowel, just like "floss". So:
           | 
           | glass (swe) -> glass (ice cream)
           | 
           | glas (swe) -> glaas (glass)
           | 
           | To make it even easier these two words also have different
           | A-sounds, the first quick one has the one in english "tan",
           | the second has the one in "car".
        
       | OJFord wrote:
       | I haven't come across this one before, a similar project is
       | https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/hovercraft.htm ('my
       | hovercraft is full of eels' from Monty Python's Flying Circus)
        
         | szatkus wrote:
         | There's even PIE and Sumerian, hilarious.
        
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         | dctoedt wrote:
         | And the very first cold-open sketch on the very first episode
         | of _Saturday Night Live_ , in October 1975: John Belushi
         | learning to say, "I would like to feed your fingertips to the
         | wolverines."
         | 
         | https://www.openculture.com/2021/03/saturday-night-lives-ver...
        
         | lafar6503 wrote:
         | Where are your howitzers?
        
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