[HN Gopher] X to use Israeli software to require selfie, govt-is...
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X to use Israeli software to require selfie, govt-issued ID for
verification
Author : celtoid
Score : 40 points
Date : 2023-08-25 21:35 UTC (1 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.jpost.com)
| 8note wrote:
| Are these hard to come by?
|
| I bet you could pay less than $10 per id+selfie combo
|
| Nowadays, you could autogenerated both, and it's way more
| expensive to check the I'd than to generate one
| NikkiA wrote:
| I mean, I lack a government ID, and it'd be nearly impossible
| for me to get one, so yeah.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| Stripe Identity does it for $1.50/proofing request. Not sure
| what ID.me charges (what Login.gov is pushing out across the
| federal agency fleet).
|
| If you fake it, of course the recourse is the legal system for
| identity fraud.
| chrononaut wrote:
| > [T]he recourse is the legal system for identity fraud.
|
| Is it though? Are there sets of federal or state laws [in the
| United States] that say you must never misrepresent your
| identity to a private party (X) if they ask for it? Wouldn't
| their recourse just be their ToS? What if a retail store
| clerk asked you when buying toothpaste? I suppose the law
| would probably be around the fake identities themselves?
| (e.g. creating a fake driver's license) But that would still
| be up to the state to prosecute, right?
|
| I presume there are of course laws about misrepresenting your
| identity to the government, but now I am curious to what
| extent that's the case for private parties.
|
| (I don't know much about the law in this area)
| LightBug1 wrote:
| Over my dead body.
| Racing0461 wrote:
| Looks like its for "verified" users only. Is it more acceptable
| in this case?
| pseingatl wrote:
| Venmo currently wants the same. KYC.
| account-5 wrote:
| Nope.
| aaron695 wrote:
| [dead]
| georgeg23 wrote:
| The funny thing is there are now plenty of selfie generators
| based on a single image that could operate off of a fake or
| stolen ID
| itslennysfault wrote:
| This is literally why I left facebook almost 10 years ago. They
| locked me out and required I send them a photo of my ID. I said,
| "Y'all ain't the cops... imma not do that"
|
| ...but first I drew them an ID in crayon which they rejected,
| then one in acrylics, one in color pencil, one in pastels, etc,
| etc... My goal was to make one for each of the 50 states, but I
| only did like 5 before I got bored of sending them and having
| them rejected as not valid IDs.
|
| Anyways, I'm not ever sending a social media company government
| issued IDs. Not gonna happen.
| unstatusthequo wrote:
| I feel like with AI tools now you could automate this and just
| enjoy the responses
| cma wrote:
| That could really get under the skin of the AI on the other
| end.
| currency wrote:
| Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter/X. When he
| gives up trying, what lessons will he learn?
|
| This is my breaking point. I will not give up anonymity on this
| platform.
| tjrgergw wrote:
| > Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter
|
| I keep hearing this, but people keep using Twitter.
| mgiannopoulos wrote:
| It's not going to be a requirement
| jonas21 wrote:
| You don't have to. It's only if you want the blue checkmark.
| XorNot wrote:
| Twitter/X needs the money from checkmarks more then anyone
| needs checkmarks.
| spullara wrote:
| It isn't even for the blue checkmark. This is a separate
| thing saying your ID is verified.
| [deleted]
| paganel wrote:
| > Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter/X.
|
| They've just been on the front-page of all the Western media
| today, from the FT, to BBC to the NYTimes, they're doing quite
| all-right.
|
| Meanwhile I realized today that I have genuinely forgotten the
| name of the Twitter clone put forward by Zuckerberg,
| C...something. Ah, no, I've just googled it now, it's Threads.
| Yeah, that project is dead in the water.
| threeseed wrote:
| a) Twitter/X is _not_ doing okay. They are valued at 1 /3rd
| of what the company was purchased at. And their ill-conceived
| rebrand has seen them plummet on App Store charts indicating
| that many people don't know that it even happened.
|
| b) After its initial peak Threads started to lose users
| largely because of missing features e.g. web app, search,
| hashtags, chronological sort etc. One by one these are being
| added and users are slowly coming back. Meta is not going to
| kill Threads whilst it is providing rich behavioural data
| into their Instagram/Facebook ad serving.
| theshrike79 wrote:
| CCPA and GDPR are going to have a field day with this crap
| robotnikman wrote:
| Seems like they don't care unfortunately seeing how Facebook
| has been doing the same thing for a decade now. It happened to
| my dad's account and they just went and made a new account
| instead of dealing with the verification
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