[HN Gopher] Google and Microsoft Are Supercharging AI Deepfake Porn
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       Google and Microsoft Are Supercharging AI Deepfake Porn
        
       Author : imichael
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2023-08-24 20:20 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | chrisjj wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/7X04F
        
       | chrisjj wrote:
       | > "deepfakes" -- videos made with artificial intelligence that
       | fabricate a lifelike simulation of a sexual act featuring the
       | face of a real woman.
       | 
       | What?? AI doesn't work on men?? ;)
        
       | 8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote:
       | If deepfake porn becomes trivial to generate, doesn't that by
       | definition make all revenge and extortion porn worthless because
       | now anybody can make porn of anybody else?
       | 
       | It seems like a natural continuation of being able to Photoshop
       | people's faces onto strangers in compromising situations. Is this
       | not just a better version of that?
       | 
       | Seems like fighting it would only make fake porn more valuable
       | and dangerous.
        
         | cuttysnark wrote:
         | > natural continuation of being able to Photoshop people's
         | faces
         | 
         | This is where I'm at as well, where it differs IMO is: the
         | throughput/variety and the zero barrier to entry--even the most
         | gifted 'shopper could only work so fast and with whatever
         | available media. It would be possible to deconstruct the image
         | to know face from X, background from Y. And still, virtually
         | all photoshops have "tells" -- they're "off" with regard to
         | lighting, perspective, etc. and it varies from artist to
         | artist.
         | 
         | Tools exist that can tell which pixels were "disturbed" or
         | otherwise inconsistent with the rest of the image. Being able
         | to spot a Photoshopped image is an internet joke and true life
         | skill--"it's a 'shop. I can tell by the pixels and from years
         | of seeing 'shops"
         | 
         | AI-generated images removes the maker's mark, and despite
         | hilariously struggling with anatomy, seldom gets lighting or
         | coloring "wrong" in a way that a human might.
        
           | 8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote:
           | That's all sensible. My point still remains that when the
           | cost, time and technical competence of generating fake porn
           | of someone approach 0, and everybody knows it, then the value
           | of whatever porn you might have of that person is also 0,
           | which is the state we ultimately want to get to.
           | 
           | Same thing with voice, we're almost at the point where
           | anybody can spoof anybody else's voice with barely any
           | effort. We're going to get used to a world where voices mean
           | nothing.
        
       | zb3 wrote:
       | Another bullshit article. Thanks to articles like this companies
       | waste resources on "ai safety" which practically means the model
       | refuses basic requests because "oh it might offend someone and
       | some journalist might smear our company".
       | 
       | Meanwhile open-source models are already there and are be here to
       | stay. So instead of trying to uphold the unsustainable status-quo
       | that images are trustworthy, it's time to realize they aren't.
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | Related recent article:
       | 
       |  _Inside the AI porn marketplace_
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37248949
        
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