[HN Gopher] I walked across Luxembourg
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       I walked across Luxembourg
        
       Author : shoobs
       Score  : 352 points
       Date   : 2023-08-22 04:57 UTC (18 hours ago)
        
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       | frank_bb wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | dveeden2 wrote:
       | Max Fosh: "I Rode A Barbie Bike Across An Entire Country"
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGqTzcQjD2c
       | 
       | This was across Luxembourg as well.
        
         | xcdzvyn wrote:
         | Max Fosh is a national treasure
        
           | [deleted]
        
           | klondike_klive wrote:
           | This looks fun - but I just can't get past the Clarkson-like
           | delivery that everyone seems to have these days.
        
       | shoobs wrote:
       | A few months back I dragged myself away from Tears of the Kingdom
       | and went on a four day hike across the entirety of Luxembourg.
       | 
       | I planned my route using open source GIS tools, and did the cross
       | country walk over a long weekend back in June.
        
         | draven wrote:
         | I see you used QGis. Last time I tried it there was no easy way
         | of plugging a router. I switched to QMapShack. It's a bit more
         | complicated to use the IGN service for the maps (whereas it
         | works out of the box with QGis) but there are several options
         | for routers. The offline one (Routino) requires downloading
         | data but it works well. I use it all the time to plan 2-5 days
         | treks in the French Alps. Having the actual elevation profile
         | for a given segment is really useful.
         | 
         | Just thought you might want to try this setup for your next
         | trek!
        
           | shoobs wrote:
           | Thanks for the recommendation. I used KML files and manually
           | connected them, but a router would've been handy. I'll give
           | it a shot.
        
       | BitterPanda wrote:
       | Love it! I use organic maps on a daily basis and it is an awesome
       | tool even if you're just commuting.
        
         | darkwater wrote:
         | TIL about it and I'm gonna try it for sure. Yesterday I had a
         | very bad experience with a "Garmin Connect" generated route for
         | gravel bike, by checking it in Organic Maps I could probably
         | have avoided the issue.
        
         | mcv wrote:
         | I have it too, but often forget to use it in favour of Google
         | Maps, but Google Maps is terrible for anything not in a car or
         | train, and OSM always has fantastic detail for hiking trails.
         | Every vacation I find myself switching to Organic Maps.
         | 
         | This vacation it helped us find a trail to a really beautiful
         | waterfall in Switzerland.
        
           | SSLy wrote:
           | Google Maps whole use case is finding restaurants and pubs in
           | new places, and that's about it.
        
             | BitterPanda wrote:
             | Organic maps has the same feature and they also have
             | opening hours which is cool, Google Maps still has a lot
             | more but for an Open-Source project it's quite decent
        
             | mcv wrote:
             | Even that it's not great at. It's not showing them all,
             | it's not showing the link to the restaurant itself upfront,
             | but neither is the menu it lists the right one.
             | 
             | If they actually wanted to make it easy to find the right
             | restaurant for you in the area, there's dozens of things
             | they could do to make it easier for people.
        
       | tguvot wrote:
       | Had a roadtrip in Europe 15 years ago or so with my wife. We
       | planned to stop in Luxembourg for a lunch, but because we failed
       | to find a parking we had to leave the country
        
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         | janosdebugs wrote:
         | Parking is a problem in a lot of European cities. Trains are
         | probably a better choice for such trips in Europe.
        
           | davidktr wrote:
           | Parking where you want can be a problem. You won't have
           | issues if you use a parking garage or park in the outskirts
           | and then use public transportation.
        
           | Wicher wrote:
           | Parking is a problem? Just find a fence or lamp post and loop
           | a lock through your front wheel and frame triangle. It's
           | free.
        
             | Ylpertnodi wrote:
             | "Free" parking, as far as bicycles go is often: how much
             | can you afford to purchase a new one [after it gets stolen,
             | despite the lock(s)]?
        
           | dagw wrote:
           | _Trains are probably a better choice for such trips in
           | Europe._
           | 
           | Having 'done' Europe both by train and by car, the trips end
           | up being very different. Trains are great if you want to hit
           | the major cities. With a car you can visit all kinds of small
           | villages, rural areas and interesting nature that you cannot
           | really reach by public transport.
        
             | ghaff wrote:
             | Some places--whatever the continent--are certainly more
             | amenable to not having a car than others. But, generally
             | speaking, people also just generally adapt. If you're in a
             | lot of cities without a car, you just mostly avoid taking
             | trips outside the city very often because it's a pain to
             | do. You tend to orient your activities around low friction
             | most of the time.
        
               | kredd wrote:
               | Depends on how long you go for? I usually pick a city for
               | a week as a base, then use a combination of trains, buses
               | and sometimes bikes to check out the outskirts. It adds
               | to the adventure, even though it's definitely more
               | difficult. Surprisingly I haven't been stuck anywhere,
               | but generally I make sure I have plenty of time and
               | options available to get back.
        
             | devoutsalsa wrote:
             | I did a Scotland road trip in February 2020. Through was
             | hitting like 3 to 5 castles and/or historical sites per
             | day. I think I drive about 6000km that month. It was
             | fantastic.
        
             | cubefox wrote:
             | Which is fitting, as parking is not a big problem in rural
             | areas.
        
               | gpvos wrote:
               | Tell that to these people:
               | https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53984239 _(Romanian
               | tourists swamp village loved by Prince Charles)._
        
               | developer93 wrote:
               | I was there last year, and to be fair, the road isn't
               | metalled, it's mostly large white stones like gravel but
               | about 5-10cm big. Even a single car kicks up a lot more
               | dust than it would on a "normal" asphalt road. Not that
               | I'm diminishing these peoples' problems, just adding
               | context.
        
             | mcv wrote:
             | We did a carless vacation this year, and picked
             | Switzerland, which is absolutely perfect for it. Trains are
             | actually better to reach some places than cars are.
             | 
             | Unfortunately to get there, we had to travel through
             | Germany, and their ICE network is a complete mess of
             | confusion and delay. They do seem to be good at keeping the
             | total delay just within an hour (it was 55 minutes both
             | times), so they don't have to pay back any tickets.
        
               | brabel wrote:
               | I did a similar trip between Prague, Krumlov, Salzburg
               | and Vienna, with a few other stops in between, by bus and
               | train. We saw a lot of things by just walking around and
               | using local transport lines, which include stops in the
               | middle of nowhere. The area between southern Czech and
               | Salzburg is just amazingly beautiful. Of course, Prague
               | and Vienna are also amazing cities to visit, but that
               | everyone already knows.
               | 
               | We only caught trains in Austria, and they were extremely
               | punctual!
        
               | johnwalkr wrote:
               | Some people deliberately plan trips on ICE with a few
               | connections. Then they are almost guaranteed to be
               | delayed by more than an hour and get a partial refund.
        
               | martin_a wrote:
               | Nah, don't worry, they (Deutsche Bahn) hit the hour mark
               | quite often without any problems.
               | 
               | Funny story on the side: German ICEs are only allowed up
               | to Basel, so they will not cause any delays in the Swiss
               | train network. The Swiss fear that we would destroy their
               | fine-tuned system otherwise. :-D
        
               | mcv wrote:
               | Some ICEs only go to Basel, but there are definitely ICEs
               | going all the way to Bern and Interlaken.
               | 
               | Which is a funny thing: Interlaken is officially a town
               | of 5700 people, and yet they're got two train stations
               | receiving international high-speed trains. I guess it's
               | really a town of 5700 Swiss and 100,000 tourists.
               | 
               | And the ICEs that started in Interlaken left on time. But
               | once our train to Switzerland got delayed, I think we had
               | to switch in Basel and take a bunch of local trains. So
               | maybe you're right; maybe they're only allowed as long as
               | they're not delayed.
               | 
               | Still, I don't understand how German trains manage to
               | become such utter chaos every single time. I feel a lot
               | better about the Dutch railways now.
        
               | martin_a wrote:
               | I think they want to get rid of the trains going to
               | Interlaken directly. At least that's what I read in the
               | SZ [0].
               | 
               | If you haven't seen it, there's the great talk from David
               | Kriesel on the 36C3 [1] about how Deutsche Bahn is...
               | "doing statistics" to hide their delays. It's well worth
               | the hour!
               | 
               | [0]: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/reise/deutsche-bahn-
               | verspaetunge...
               | 
               | [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rb9CfOvojk
        
               | mcv wrote:
               | The most annoying part isn't even the delays. Not by a
               | long shot. The annoying part is instead of relaxing in
               | our reserved first class seats with a single layover,
               | we're constantly puzzling what's going on, where we have
               | to change now, lugging our luggage across 4 layovers, and
               | losing our reserved seats, having to stand, etc.
               | 
               | I'd rather have an extra hour of delay than ruining a
               | relaxing trip like that.
        
               | martin_a wrote:
               | Yes, I feel that. Did a rather long journey a few weeks
               | ago (7+ hours). The ICE had a delay of 40 minutes in
               | Hannover which they could reduce going down south. Once
               | it rolls, it rolls and then it's mostly okay _.
               | 
               | _ okay, WLAN was down, reserved seat displays were down,
               | bistro was down, but the train was rolling!
        
               | gottorf wrote:
               | > "doing statistics" to hide their delays
               | 
               | "Lies, damned lies, and statistics." The older I get, the
               | more true this becomes!
        
               | saiya-jin wrote:
               | I think the reason is more bureaucratic, costs, contracts
               | etc - Swiss let happily French TGV on their trails, I
               | took it few times with only Swiss ticket since I was
               | getting off within Suisse (so no surcharge).
        
               | martin_a wrote:
               | I think the TGV is pretty much on time, that's why they
               | have no problem with that.
        
               | developer93 wrote:
               | It's funny because externally Germany somehow has the
               | reputation of perfect punctuality, I can only assume that
               | country stereotypes tend to be outdated.
        
               | mcv wrote:
               | My impression of German Punktlichkeit certainly took a
               | big hit.
               | 
               | In the past, my trips to Germany rarely went further than
               | Oberhausen or Essen, so that was never a big challenge to
               | my belief in the German railway system. After this trip,
               | my brother and dad (who have a lot more international
               | train experience) were not surprised at all by our delays
               | in Germany. Apparently confusion and delay are the normal
               | state of things there.
        
               | developer93 wrote:
               | As someone who's lived here 10 years you're spot on. I
               | hear it all went to pot when they tried to reorganise DB
               | to prepare it for privatisation, which never really
               | happened, and centralised everything around Frankfurt. So
               | now it's in a quasi independent state which no one seems
               | very prioritised about fixing. Hey at least there's the
               | cheap (Deutschland) ticket now.
        
               | martin_a wrote:
               | This kind of hits the core.
               | 
               | As the DB (Deutsche Bahn) is a private company now
               | (although they are 100% owned by the state), they have to
               | make a profit.
               | 
               | How do you make a profit? Either raise prices or lower
               | costs. Doing both is the best and that's what they do.
               | Raising prices is easy, it just gets more and more
               | expensive, even the "cheap" Deutschlandticket is too
               | expensive, experts say it should probably be around 29
               | Euro/month to make a real change.
               | 
               | How do you save costs? You do only the bare minimum of
               | maintenance, don't invest in building more tracks and
               | instead reduce tracks and track switches. That's what
               | they've done the last 20 years or so. [0]
               | 
               | This leads to ICEs being stuck behind slower trains as
               | there are simply no more tracks to switch to and pass
               | cargo trains etc. So, if some train gets stuck somewhere
               | or has a defect, every other train is stuck behind that
               | for some time.
               | 
               | Now, as the state subsidizes some parts of Deutsche Bahn,
               | building something new is also cheaper than maintaining
               | what is there. So they let some things rot down so far
               | that they have to rebuild it completely. As the
               | subsidization is then higher, that's better for the
               | turnaround numbers.
               | 
               | There have been thoughts about splitting off building and
               | maintenance of the tracks completely of the rest but that
               | didn't work so far. In that scenario the state would take
               | care of the infrastructure and DB would just "rent" it to
               | drive on it.
               | 
               | To add something else to it:
               | 
               | I think David Kriesel has it in his talk [1]: DB also
               | "found out", that you can reduce delays in your overall
               | network when you start skipping stops or canceling them
               | completely. If you know that you're too late at your last
               | two stops, just cancel those stops completely.
               | 
               | Cancelled stops are not part of the delay statistics of
               | DB, so not driving somewhere at all is, statistically
               | seen, better than arriving there late. Only a little bit
               | problematic for the people that want to get there or
               | board there.
               | 
               | Turning around early also has the "advantage" that your
               | new train will be back on time again easier.
               | 
               | It's a mess for long distance travel.
               | 
               | [0]:
               | https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB_Netz#Netzentwicklung
               | [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rb9CfOvojk
        
               | adrian_b wrote:
               | When I have stayed for some time in Germany about twenty
               | years ago, everything was still as expected from that
               | reputation of perfect punctuality.
               | 
               | When I have stayed again for some time in Germany about
               | ten years ago, in the same cities, everything was
               | changed. A train that was not delayed was a miracle
               | instead of being normal. Also everything was much
               | dirtier, instead of being spotless, as before.
               | 
               | It was a quite shocking change after only ten years.
        
           | tguvot wrote:
           | trains better only if you want to follow train path. we had a
           | bit of "freestyle" roadtrip (with multiple stops over couple
           | of weeks, not point to point) Dusseldorf to Paris with help
           | of state of the art iGo on asus pda. In Paris we did ditch a
           | car and took train to the city.
        
             | AlecSchueler wrote:
             | You can train between major spots then use the bus to get
             | to smaller towns and villages.
        
           | dalbasal wrote:
           | That's kind of like suggesting wilderness hiking instead of
           | urban sightseeing. I've traveled/toured NL by train and by
           | car. Different countries entirely.
           | 
           | But yeah... In some cities, your best plan is probably to
           | park at the hotel (perhaps on the outskirts) and use trains.
        
           | phalf wrote:
           | > Parking is a problem in a lot of European cities.
           | 
           | On the flipside, the inner cities are much nicer. You have
           | fewer of those seas of concrete just for parking. I wish it
           | was even more so and street parking as well as open lots
           | would just not be a thing. If you really need to come by car,
           | put it in some underground parkade (for $$$). Cities are too
           | dominated by cars. They should be there for people, not the
           | other way around.
        
           | avyeed_desa wrote:
           | I think someone didn't get the joke, or took OP too
           | seriously. No offense to you though.
        
             | benoliver999 wrote:
             | Yeah it's not 'that' small lol
        
               | world2vec wrote:
               | I've done hikes bigger than the whole country lol
        
               | prmoustache wrote:
               | That is not big either. Most people walking thesantiago
               | de compostela pilgrimage route from the Spanish border,
               | Madrid or Lisbon do walk much more.
        
               | benoliver999 wrote:
               | I drove the pilgrimage, and there was loads of parking!
        
             | jjallen wrote:
             | The joke is not obvious at all. This is a totally realistic
             | scenario.
             | 
             | Source: I live in another small but not that small of a
             | European country.
        
         | johnwalkr wrote:
         | I'm kind of surprised, it was and still is a very car-centric
         | city. The very centre can be busy but these days, with a smart
         | phone you could easily find parking within 500m or so.
        
           | tguvot wrote:
           | It was 2006-8 or so. iGo on Asus MyPal PDA
        
       | pjc50 wrote:
       | Fans of this sort of thing may enjoy
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Time_of_Gifts : "it is a memoir
       | of the first part of Fermor's journey on foot across Europe from
       | the Hook of Holland to Constantinople in 1933/34". Extremely
       | lyrical style full of historical context.
        
       | Elho wrote:
       | wauw, you inspired me.
       | 
       | I dont live that far from luxembourg i'm planning to hike your
       | trail.
       | 
       | i'm planning on doing it with a tent in my backpack. Did you came
       | across some official campgrounds? Or is it legal to camp wild in
       | luxembourg?
       | 
       | Thanks
        
         | shoobs wrote:
         | There are multiple official camping grounds and caravan parks
         | on the route. Unfortunately wild camping isn't allowed
         | anywhere. I know that some people still try it, and probably so
         | long as you're somewhere off trail, camp late and leave early
         | nobody will bother you.
        
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       | uwagar wrote:
       | how are people able to walk 100kms in 4 days with no rest days.
       | 
       | i just can walk 8 kms every day :(
        
         | ryankrage77 wrote:
         | I was wondering this too. Last time I did a ~15km walk, my legs
         | and feet were really aching at the end of it. I think I _could_
         | have done another 15km back if I had no other choice, but it
         | would have been miserable. As it started to rain, I got a lift
         | back instead.
        
         | yread wrote:
         | Napoleon's soldiers marched 120km in 2 days! With weapons and
         | gear, in enemy country, without wibrams, gel pads, walking
         | poles or socks.
        
         | creole_wither wrote:
         | [dead]
        
         | prawn wrote:
         | 25km isn't too rough unless you're copping a lot of ups and
         | downs, or don't enjoy walking. Helps if you start early to
         | cover ground and give yourself time to rest.
         | 
         | Our 4yo daughter did day hikes in the 15-20km range a few times
         | last year, in mountainous terrain. I think attitude and
         | resilience are key.
         | 
         | In this case, one advantage was the author having a 7kg pack
         | and using accommodation/food along the way rather than carrying
         | a tent, sleeping gear, food, 2-3L of water, etc. Starting with
         | day hikes or walking part of your commute is an easy way to
         | build up to trying longer adventures.
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | A lot depends on the terrain and the condition of the
         | trail/road. (Pavement does tend to be a bit harder on your feet
         | than a nice dirt trail.)
         | 
         | 25km (~15mi) per day on level terrain on a path in good
         | condition is a good walk but not anything exceptional. If there
         | are ups and downs and the trail is rock and rough that's a
         | whole different story.
        
       | Aeolun wrote:
       | Got to love their Minecraft exports of any place in the country:
       | https://blocks.geoportail.lu/custom_static/worlds/3fa997d2-b...
       | 
       | The recent ones seem to be broken, but old ones still have a
       | working preview.
        
       | gwbas1c wrote:
       | Wow, that looks like a lot of fun! Maybe I'd try and do something
       | like that over a week.
       | 
       | I also looked and Rhode Island is 70km north to south. I don't
       | know if it has as many pubs and hotels as Matt encountered,
       | though.
        
       | hiop wrote:
       | Next time walk around Luxembourg.
        
       | markthien wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | janlaureys wrote:
       | I've been _in_ Luxembourg many times on our way from Belgium to
       | France or Germany, but only last year I visited it for the first
       | time. We did one of the Mullertal trails in 3 days and it 's an
       | absolutely beautiful little country.
        
       | pavlov wrote:
       | The history of Luxembourg is an interesting microcosm of how the
       | fortunes of states and dynasties have ebbed and flowed in Europe
       | over the past thousand years.
       | 
       | There was a time when the House of Luxembourg was the main rival
       | to the Habsburgs for control of central Europe, contributing four
       | Holy Roman Emperors:
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Luxemburg
       | 
       | The dukes of this area used to be so important to European
       | politics that Henry VIII of England married a Dutch duke's
       | daughter for political reasons (and immediately regretted it of
       | course, as he was wont to do).
       | 
       | The area of the Duchy used to be several times larger, but over
       | centuries it was nibbled away by France, Prussia, and finally the
       | creation of Belgium.
       | 
       | It has been under Spanish rule (those Habsburgs again), then
       | invaded by the French revolutionary republic and annexed into
       | France as a department simply called Forets (Forests) because the
       | revolutionaries didn't want to keep any names that honored the
       | old nobility. After Napoleon's defeat the Congress of Vienna
       | aimed to restore old borders and reinstate monarchies, but with
       | multiple claims on Luxembourg, it was split and became a grand
       | duchy whose head of state was the King of Netherlands.
       | 
       | It became an independent country in 1890 when the Dutch king died
       | without a male heir. Dutch law allowed the throne to pass to a
       | female child, but the Grand Duchy was under different laws and
       | was inherited by a claimant rather than the new Dutch queen.
       | (Monarchy is pretty weird in practice.)
        
         | Andrew_nenakhov wrote:
         | > Dutch law allowed the throne to pass to a female child, but
         | the Grand Duchy was under different laws and was inherited by a
         | claimant rather than the new Dutch queen
         | 
         | If you are confused by this, try Crusader Kings game by Paradox
         | (I prefer ck2 to ck3) for a good taste of multiple types of
         | inheritance and problems arising from ruling medieval realm and
         | passing all accumulated titles to your heirs.
        
         | mcv wrote:
         | The reason it was such a strategic position, is because the
         | town was a natural fortress. It's located on top of a high,
         | flat rock, which is riddled with tunnels for gun casemates,
         | making the town of Luxembourg very hard to take.
         | 
         | It was a vital part of the Spanish Road that the Spanish
         | Habsburgs needed to move troops from their lands in Italy to
         | the north during the 80 Years War.
        
           | johnwalkr wrote:
           | In 1867 by treaty the anything military and the fortress was
           | required to be torn down. Kind of a shame, because just a few
           | decades later fortresses became almost useless in war. It's a
           | bit weird to see the ruins of a fortress and then go to the
           | local museum and realize that it was torn down recently
           | enough that there are tons of photographs of it. On the other
           | hand it allowed the rest of the city centre to be built up.
        
         | pjc50 wrote:
         | > (Monarchy is pretty weird in practice.)
         | 
         | Friend of mine back-tested the simple "the next king is the
         | first son of the previous king" against the past 1,000 years of
         | English kings and found it to be true only half the time.
        
           | NeoTar wrote:
           | I did the same - taking only the kings/queens of England
           | (i.e. starting with Alfred and ending with Queen Anne,
           | ignoring those after the unification of the United Kingdom).
           | 
           | Son is by far the most common (21 from 50), followed by
           | brother (6 from 50).
           | 
           | The next two are especially interesting - 5 new monarchs were
           | usurpers (i.e. not closely related to the previous monach)
           | and 3 times the new monarch was also an old monarch (i.e. a
           | previous King was returned to the throne!).
           | 
           | There were 4 or 5 female successions (twice a daughter, twice
           | a sister and once a daughter-but-disputed-succession [i.e.
           | Matilda]).
           | 
           | Only once does it looks like the succession totally jumped a
           | generation, and a grandson succeeded. In every other
           | situation it looks like people were in the same generation
           | (i.e. brother, sisters, cousins) or one lower (sons,
           | daughters, nephews).
           | 
           | And only once did the succession 'jump back' a generation,
           | with Richard III succeeding his nephew.
        
             | googlryas wrote:
             | I was really hoping that Charles would just be king for a
             | day and give it to William thereafter. Get some fresh blood
             | in there, as well as a figure that didn't have 50 years of
             | somewhat controversial behavior lined up behind them.
        
           | gottorf wrote:
           | Did your friend exclude situations where the previous king
           | had no sons?
        
         | dalbasal wrote:
         | >> Dutch law allowed the throne to pass to a female child, but
         | the Grand Duchy was under different laws and was inherited by a
         | claimant rather than the new Dutch queen. (Monarchy is pretty
         | weird in practice.)
         | 
         | Game of Thrones, with its campy portrayal of regal titles and
         | announcements, kind of drives this point home. European
         | aristocracy, especially those derived from germanic and other
         | barbarian cultures, held titles like collectibles. Lordships
         | accrued rather than expanded. The could be dispersed and often
         | were.
         | 
         | If you watch Queen Elizebeth coronation, the list of titles
         | would shame Daenerys Targaryen. It's quite surreal. Queen of
         | Jamaica, Empress of India, Defender of the faith...
         | 
         | Even the 20th century version was not unrelated to real
         | politics, but as you go back, this reflected real political
         | power and machinations. Every title had different rules,
         | different arbiters, and disputes led to actual wars.
        
           | Symbiote wrote:
           | Queen Elizabeth II had so many titles they abbreviated them:
           | 
           | (On accession.) "Queen Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of
           | God Queen of this Realm and of Her other Realms and
           | Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the
           | Faith."
           | 
           | (At death.) "Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the
           | United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of
           | Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the
           | Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, and Sovereign of the
           | Most Noble Order of the Garter."
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles_and_honours_of_.
           | ..
        
             | gumby wrote:
             | The kings of England also claimed to be Kings of France
             | until 1800.
        
               | oblio wrote:
               | In 1800 England was closer to becoming a department of
               | France, than France joining a personal union under
               | England :-))
               | 
               | Of course, life turned out differently, but aristocratic
               | claims are quite crazy. Who's the current King of
               | Jerusalem, again? :-D
        
               | gumby wrote:
               | There's a Hohenzollern (futilely) trying to claw back the
               | assets of Prussia.
        
             | dalbasal wrote:
             | Maybe in parts of the ceremony. The footage on replay at
             | london castle has long (20m+) title read.
        
             | opensource4ever wrote:
             | >Head of the Commonwealth
             | 
             | that is no joke, remember back in 80 or 70, when she
             | recalled the election results in Australia. Then they had
             | the election again, and of course this time the other guy
             | won.
        
               | reaperducer wrote:
               | _remember back in 80 or 70, when she recalled the
               | election results in Australia. Then they had the election
               | again, and of course this time the other guy won._
               | 
               | You'd think the queen interfering in an election would
               | earn her more than one brief mention in the Wikipedia
               | article. But Wiki remembers it differently than you do:
               | 
               | "The leader of the Opposition, Billy Snedden, was
               | enthusiastic about the appointment and also agreed to
               | reappoint Kerr in five years, were he prime minister at
               | the time. Kerr then agreed to take the post, was duly
               | appointed by Queen Elizabeth II, and was sworn in on 11
               | July 1974."
        
               | aardvark179 wrote:
               | Yeah... not exactly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_A
               | ustralian_constitutional...
        
               | Symbiote wrote:
               | The relevant title for that action would be Queen of
               | Australia, but the reality was considerably more
               | complicated.
               | 
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutio
               | nal...
        
               | dghughes wrote:
               | Basically Governor-General (the Queen's representative of
               | a country) John Kerr did it without approval from the
               | Queen.
               | 
               | We have the same system here in Canada but if such a
               | thing happened here there would be riots in the streets.
               | Especially Quebec and First Nations. But really anyone
               | would be very mad and we would probably drop the monarchy
               | that day tradition or not.
        
               | TMWNN wrote:
               | >Basically Governor-General (the Queen's representative
               | of a country) John Kerr did it without approval from the
               | Queen.
               | 
               | What does this even mean? It's not like G-Gs the world
               | over consult with Buckingham Palace before every action.
               | Kerr acted as he believed was the correct course. You may
               | or may not agree, but the 1975 dismissal was not a case
               | of that Governor-General somehow cheating to get away
               | with a flagrant violation of the rules G-Gs follow.
               | 
               | More to the point, Australians did not agree with your
               | interpretation. The Coalition won the biggest majority in
               | history in the federal election called one month after
               | the dismissal. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Austra
               | lian_federal_electi...>
               | 
               | >We have the same system here in Canada but if such a
               | thing happened here there would be riots in the streets.
               | 
               | The same thing _did_ happen in Canada.
               | <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%E2%80%93Byng_affair>
               | No riots.
               | 
               | Yet again, a Canadian (thinks he) knows more about other
               | countries' affairs than his own. I can guarantee that
               | Canadians as a whole were more aware of Trump winning the
               | 2016 US presidential election by earning more electoral
               | votes than Hillary despite receiving fewer popular votes,
               | than the fact that the same thing (of one party forming a
               | federal government by winning the most seats, despite
               | winning fewer popular votes than another) had happened
               | several times in Canadian history, such as in 1979. I
               | doubt that this has changed even though this happened
               | _again_ in the two most recent federal elections to
               | Trudeau 's benefit.
        
               | belval wrote:
               | > Yet again, a Canadian (thinks he) knows more about
               | other countries' affairs than his own.
               | 
               | On behalf of Canadians I'm sorry about whatever it is
               | that we did to make you feel this way.
        
               | gumby wrote:
               | Governors General are more than a mere "representative"
               | (though they re described that way in my passport), they
               | are viceroys (vice kings) so exercise royal prerogatives.
               | 
               | Of course monarchy is nonsense but I have a thing for
               | pedantry like this.
               | 
               | TBH the nonsensical nature of monarchy works out for
               | Australia, as it costs essentially nothing and sort of
               | acts as a ground strap to make the idea of "head of
               | state" rather irrelevant. Just compare to countries like
               | France or USA where the Head of State gets capital
               | letters and is a person with actual power.
               | 
               | Next best would be a president like in Germany who is
               | basically a nonentity with less power than a GG.
        
               | oblio wrote:
               | > TBH the nonsensical nature of monarchy works out for
               | Australia, as it costs essentially nothing and sort of
               | acts as a ground strap to make the idea of "head of
               | state" rather irrelevant. Just compare to countries like
               | France or USA where the Head of State gets capital
               | letters and is a person with actual power.
               | 
               | > Next best would be a president like in Germany who is
               | basically a nonentity with less power than a GG.
               | 
               | Meh, you're just moving the position 1 rank down. The
               | German Chancellor (in other countries, the Prime
               | Minister) wields all the power instead.
               | 
               | Plus, you know, they're only presidents. After 4-5-6-7
               | (x2 in some cases) years they go away.
        
               | [deleted]
        
               | gumby wrote:
               | > Meh, you're just moving the position 1 rank down.
               | 
               | Indeed, that is the point. But the PM can be replaced
               | more easily than, and doesn't have the same focus of
               | attention of, the head of state. Best is when the two are
               | muddled, as in the German case.
               | 
               | I've lived in Australia, USA, France and Germany so have
               | some idea of the spectrum of options.
        
               | gottorf wrote:
               | The concept under description is effectively Bagehot's
               | "dignified" vs. "efficient" parts of government. The head
               | of state being the "dignified", the personification of
               | the nation, and the head of government being the
               | "efficient", the wielder of political power.
               | 
               | I generally favor the American-style presidential system
               | over the British-style parliamentary system, but I think
               | one flaw of the American one is that it combines the
               | roles of the dignified and the efficient, often
               | conflicting with each other, into one office.
               | 
               | The French semi-presidential system is a little weird,
               | with technically the prime minister being the head of
               | government, but the president still wields most of the
               | executive power.
        
               | gumby wrote:
               | The 5e's constitution was designed for De Gaulle, so de
               | facto, the French President wields _all_ the power, even
               | quite a bit during  "cohabitation". The PM is mainly
               | there is be blamed for things and to manage the
               | legislature for the president.
        
               | kevinventullo wrote:
               | _we would probably drop the monarchy that day tradition
               | or not._
               | 
               | I'm not so sure. If that were the case, why not drop it
               | now? There is nothing virtuous about the tradition.
        
           | dghf wrote:
           | Elizabeth was never Empress of India, not least because India
           | became a republic in 1950, two years before her accession.
        
             | arethuza wrote:
             | Yes - the title Emperor/Empress of India was abolished in
             | 1948:
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_of_India
             | 
             | So her father, George VI, was the last Emperor of India.
        
           | pavlov wrote:
           | They did love collecting titles. The kings of England also
           | claimed the title of King of France until 1802, even though
           | they lost the very last enclave on French soil in 1558:
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_claims_to_the_French_t.
           | ..
        
             | mcv wrote:
             | Holy Roman Emperors also pile on the royal titles. King of
             | the Germans, king of Italy, on top of their regular titles.
             | Charles V was king of Germany, Italy, Spain, Lord of the
             | Netherlands, Duke of Burgundy. When he passed half of his
             | titles to his brother Ferdinand, he was also king of
             | Bohemia, Hungary and Croatia.
             | 
             | And yet somehow there's supposed to be only one real king
             | in the Empire (Bohemia).
        
               | sofixa wrote:
               | > Charles V
               | 
               | Funnily he was also King of two different Galicias (the
               | one in Spain and the other one in Ukraine)
        
               | pavlov wrote:
               | Maybe one day some really successful conqueror will be
               | king of both Georgias, the one in North America and the
               | one in Caucasus.
        
               | kroltan wrote:
               | Or maybe a really specific conqueror?
               | 
               | I could bet on what his name would be.
        
               | earthboundkid wrote:
               | Drago the Dragon King.
        
             | d-trieu wrote:
             | The current King of Sweden decided that he had enough and
             | dropped all except King of Sweden from his.
        
               | rags2riches wrote:
               | Ever since the Kalmar Union, Denmark has had the Swedish
               | national emblem the Three Crowns as part of their Royal
               | Coat of Arms. The union ended in 1523.
        
               | dalbasal wrote:
               | Bad move. Now it takes one move to dethrone him.
        
               | pavlov wrote:
               | He's castled with the Stockholm Royal Palace so there's a
               | bishop and knight defending him, at least.
        
             | WarOnPrivacy wrote:
             | > The kings of England also claimed the title of King of
             | France until 1802, even though they lost the very last
             | enclave on French soil in 1558:
             | 
             | I imagine a future where China badly loses an expansionist
             | war but continues to identify itself as Protector of Tibet
             | for 10 more generations.
             | 
             | Then again I can also imagine a future US Gov rejecting the
             | Confederation of Desantia after it's Bugs Bunny style
             | secession from the US - and continue to use it's archaic
             | name of Florida.
        
             | lgeorget wrote:
             | I'm reading again Henry V, by Shakespeare. The first scene
             | starts with some realpolitik where the archbishop of
             | Canterbury (a Catholic bishop then) distracts the king from
             | passing a law that would strip the Church from a large part
             | of its wealth and lands by making him go to war against
             | France to claim the throne.
        
             | Ichthypresbyter wrote:
             | There was a recent incident with the first printing of the
             | Book of Common Prayer (the Church of England's official
             | prayer book) after the death of Queen Elizabeth II.
             | 
             | The BCP includes both references to the current monarch,
             | and to Queen Elizabeth I who ordered it to be compiled.
             | Unfortunately someone at the publisher didn't realize this,
             | and did a find and replace of (among other things) "King"
             | for "Queen" and "Charles" for "Elizabeth", resulting in a
             | page that referred to "Our Sovereign Lord CHARLES, by the
             | grace of God, of England, France and Ireland, King,
             | Defender of the Faith."
        
               | adolph wrote:
               | Reminds me of "Parsing Html The Cthulhu Way" [0] except
               | for the semantic (meaning) layer instead of the syntactic
               | layer.
               | 
               | 0. https://blog.codinghorror.com/parsing-html-the-
               | cthulhu-way/
        
         | dkga wrote:
         | Wow, I wish I had your ability to synthesise a thousand-year
         | history in a few paragraphs in such an interesting and cohesive
         | way!
        
       | thatannoyingguy wrote:
       | I don't want to be one of those people, but: Woohoo, our tiny
       | country has been mentioned on the Internet!
        
       | unixhero wrote:
       | Trekking poles are not necessary. Focus on stride, balance and
       | core strength.
        
         | draven wrote:
         | Shoes are not strictly necessary either, but they help.
         | Trekking poles help, and I also need them to pitch my tent, so
         | I'll keep them.
        
           | developer93 wrote:
           | They come as part of the tent or what? Tell me more I'm
           | intrigued.
        
             | widforss wrote:
             | Here's an example. This tent is not in production anymore,
             | but was sold without poles. UL-hiking often involves
             | finding as many uses as possible for as few items as
             | possible.
             | 
             | https://hilleberg.com/eng/shelters/rajd/
        
             | _whiteCaps_ wrote:
             | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32965526071.html
             | 
             | If you want a 'cheap' option that uses trekking poles.
        
             | draven wrote:
             | Sibling comment gives a good example. I happen to have a
             | Durston Gear XMid 2p:
             | https://durstongear.com/products/x-mid-2-tent-ultralight-
             | bac... .
        
         | globular-toast wrote:
         | Where have you walked? How far? How much weight do you carry?
         | How old are you?
        
           | unixhero wrote:
           | For days in the Norwegian wilderness, Australian outback,
           | Japanese mountains.
        
             | globular-toast wrote:
             | And..? The details are really important here. I walked
             | extensively in Snowdonia, the Lake District and the Peak
             | District without poles but only carrying at most 3kg on my
             | back. Distance covered in Britain tends to be less because
             | the going is tough. 10 miles (16km) in the Peak District
             | can be a very long day of walking. I then walked 320km
             | across Northern Spain on the Camino Primitivo. Pack was
             | more like 12-13kg and days were up to 32km with >2000m of
             | elevation change day after day. Pretty much everyone who
             | didn't have poles said they wished they had poles. It
             | became something of a meme.
        
         | widforss wrote:
         | Trekking poles are not necessary. But they are useful, and he
         | obviously see a potential use for them. Your comment comes
         | across as somewhat rude.
        
           | unixhero wrote:
           | I can live with that.
        
       | Agingcoder wrote:
       | Many years ago I was traveling around Asia and came across a
       | Spanish traveler called Samuel who was walking from Barcelona to
       | Kathmandu.
       | 
       | I don't know if he made it, but he made a lasting impression on
       | me.
        
         | Agingcoder wrote:
         | Edit : he had been in a car accident, and couldn't use his
         | right arm.
        
       | rejectfinite wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | famahar wrote:
       | I walked across Tokyo last weekend. Took me 20 hours. I suck at
       | writing so all I'll say is that everyone should walk across a
       | city. It's a magical experience. Turn off your your phone, bring
       | a disposable camera and a compass and just walk. You'll discover
       | so many personal insights.
        
         | w-m wrote:
         | I've often done that in Paris, absolutely enjoyable. Through
         | the city proper you only walk a little over two hours north-
         | south or east-west. With a few detours to points if interest
         | and breaks for coffee it's one of my favorite ways to spend a
         | half day.
        
         | throwaway290 wrote:
         | Not to invalidate your experience in any way but I think it is
         | a special case of walking in _any_ big city you have never been
         | before. As long as it is sufficiently dense /walkable and you
         | don't need to fear being robbed, it's magical. Taipei, Seoul,
         | Bangkok, you name it...
        
           | blululu wrote:
           | FWIW, I've walked across San Francisco many times and the
           | longer I live there the more I enjoy traversing it. The city
           | is beautiful, walkable, filled with nice spots to stop for
           | snack/beverage and nearly half the expanse can be covered by
           | walking through Golden Gate Park down to the ocean. I can't
           | vouch for most cities, but I suspect that a lot of them are
           | much less pleasant underfoot.
        
             | pb7 wrote:
             | Love walking in San Francisco. Feels very European in that
             | regard.
        
             | cdelsolar wrote:
             | One of my favorite things to do in SF, and I've done it a
             | handful of times, is to rent a bike at the Embarcadero, and
             | bike to Sausalito across the Golden Gate Bridge, have ice
             | cream at Lappert's, wander around, and take the ferry back.
             | Just wonderful days.
        
           | famahar wrote:
           | I agree. I hated walking in the city I lived in Canada before
           | moving to Tokyo. It wasnt very walkable and you really needed
           | to plan for any type of long walk as you might end up in a
           | place with no food or drink shops anywhere. The way Tokyo is
           | zoned allows for every possible convenience I need within a
           | mile of everywhere I walked. I felt extremely safe at all
           | times too which made things way less stressful and allowed me
           | to be completely in the moment.
        
             | throwaway290 wrote:
             | Agreed about mixed zoning, I should've mentioned that too.
             | It does not necessarily go hand in hand with walkability,
             | you also want to be able to buy eg. water especially if
             | it's hot. But I guess it usually comes together with
             | density
        
         | lm28469 wrote:
         | There is a name for that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derive
        
         | tkgally wrote:
         | That's quite a walk! Where did you start and end?
         | 
         | For about ten years, I walked every New Year's Day from my home
         | near Yokohama Station to somewhere in Tokyo--Ikebukuro or Ueno
         | or Asakusa, about 35 kilometers one way. Very memorable, as you
         | say.
         | 
         | I don't think I would do it in the summer, though.
        
           | famahar wrote:
           | Started in Hachioji and ended at the start of Chiba
           | prefecture. The heat made it tough. I was thinking about
           | doing a walk from Tamagawa station to Yokohama this weekend.
           | I love seeing what's between all the stations and building up
           | a new mental map of the area.
        
             | ninjin wrote:
             | Indeed, I was about to comment on it being a lovely and
             | enjoyable idea to stroll through Tokyo. But doing so with
             | peak temperatures in the mid-30s may make it much more
             | challenging as I know I personally would need to dive into
             | convenience stores now and then just to cool down.
             | 
             | Seconding building a mental map of the city, although I did
             | so by biking for many many years. Only took a few weeks to
             | feel confident about getting pretty much anywhere in Tokyo
             | on a bike.
        
               | resolutebat wrote:
               | If, on the other hand, you experience Tokyo mostly by
               | train/subway, your mental map is a bunch of islands, and
               | it can be weird when you walk your way from one to
               | another and suddenly your mental compass shifts. For the
               | longest time, I thought the Hachiko crossing was east of
               | Shibuya station, and my mind was blown when I walked to
               | Shibuya from Roppongi and realized I had it backwards.
        
               | johnwalkr wrote:
               | My mental model of Tokyo changed a lot when rental
               | scooters became available. Especially traveling East-
               | West, there are a lot of places much closer together than
               | you'd think from the subway maps.
        
               | ghaff wrote:
               | Especially in areas where a lot of subway lines get close
               | together, subway maps often expand the area so you can be
               | better see the stations/relationship between the lines. I
               | tended to mostly take the subway into Boston as an
               | undergrad and generally only walked in a fairly small
               | area of the city. I remember once doing multiple line
               | changes and realizing afterwards that my destination was
               | about 3 blocks from where I started.
        
               | tkgally wrote:
               | Yes, building a mental map was one of my original
               | motivations for walking from Yokohama to Tokyo. When I
               | did the walk for the first time, in 2006, I was working
               | in Tokyo and had traveled between it and my home in
               | Yokohama hundreds of times, but only by train. I worried
               | that, if I were in Tokyo when a big earthquake struck, I
               | wouldn't be sure about the best route for walking home.
               | After walking the other direction a couple of times, I
               | stopped worrying about that.
               | 
               | On the day when I could have actually put my newly
               | acquired geographical sense to good use--March 11, 2011--
               | I happened to leave for Osaka a few hours before the
               | quake struck. All of my colleagues either walked home or
               | slept in the office that night, while I had a comfortable
               | hotel room in Namba.
        
             | tkgally wrote:
             | You might want to start in Yokohama and walk north to
             | Tamagawa Station. Then you won't have the sun in your eyes
             | so much. (That factor is more important to consider in the
             | winter, though, when the sun is low and the sky is often
             | very clear.)
             | 
             | Enjoy your walk! I did that route only once, and it might
             | be the nicest one. My usual route was parallel to the
             | Keihin Tohoku Line--Tsurumi, Kawasaki, Kamata, Omori,
             | Shinagawa, etc. A bit industrial, but not bad on New Year's
             | Day.
             | 
             | There aren't many possible routes because there are very
             | few bridges over the Tama River.
        
         | gghhzzgghhzz wrote:
         | That's a far far bigger endevour than my efforts.. but I do
         | love walking from a city to the airport, dragging my carry-on
         | if necessary.
         | 
         | The last part can be a bit stressful, as airport terminals are
         | not always made for pedestrian access. But it's very satisfying
         | to feel like you have 'escaped' a city under your own steam as
         | it kind of falls apart and back together.
        
         | rjh29 wrote:
         | That sounds fun.
         | 
         | I'd recommend Kyoto too. I cycled around it a lot but never got
         | tired of the little side streets, temples and older houses.
        
         | cdelsolar wrote:
         | I walked across most of Barcelona a few years ago, fantastic
         | experience. On the few solo journeys I've made I get a ton of
         | walking in like this, but yeah, you definitely need a rest day
         | or two.
        
         | pengaru wrote:
         | I've walked across SF multiple times, it is fun, but maybe
         | doesn't qualify being not even 10 miles. A fit person can
         | easily run it.
        
         | developer93 wrote:
         | If you want to keep your phone on, street complete can be very
         | rewarding, especially in places with not so much osm coverage.
        
           | abdusco wrote:
           | Thank you so much. I read about this app here, but I couldn't
           | find it later when I moved to Germany. I'll use the shit out
           | of this app.
        
           | famahar wrote:
           | Great idea! Will be taking this on all my long walks. Tokyo
           | is lovely for this. Neighborhoods are so dense.
        
           | arcanemachiner wrote:
           | https://streetcomplete.app/
        
             | developer93 wrote:
             | Haha that would have been helpful to include. Thanks for
             | picking up my slack!
        
         | sph wrote:
         | If one cannot afford to travel, videos such as these are a good
         | alternative:
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgfd-uWTVwg (Kyoto under the
         | rain)
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgYPErtoljI (A stroll in a
         | small town near Tokyo)
        
           | jvm___ wrote:
           | This was my early pandemic habit. Watch a long, walking only,
           | YouTube video of some far off place. The best ones had no
           | talking, just the ambient sounds and sometimes a on-screen
           | note about something you were looking at.
           | 
           | The fascinating thing was watching pre-pandemic videos and
           | your own response to groups of people and hearing coughs
           | inside buildings.
        
             | sph wrote:
             | Yeah those videos kept a lot of us sane. My jam was Martijn
             | Doolaard's series of him restoring a rustic country house
             | in the Italian Alps.
             | 
             | I still put that on on days where city and modern living is
             | too much and I need to remember what being in nature feels
             | like.
             | 
             | I strongly recommend it to anyone.
        
               | tasuki wrote:
               | > need to remember what being in nature feels like
               | 
               | Have you considered... being in nature instead?
               | 
               | An audiovisual experience, no matter how great, will
               | always miss the smell, touch, and taste of actual nature.
        
         | The_Colonel wrote:
         | What was the distance? Tokyo seems immense and seems difficult
         | to cross efficiently (you have to make a lot of small detours).
        
           | famahar wrote:
           | Total was 90km. It was a mostly straight shot from west edge
           | of tokyo to the east edge passing through central tokyo. It's
           | one of many routes and I only saw a small slice of it. It's a
           | bit of a labyrinth at times if you don't stick to the main
           | roads. I hit a lot of roadblocks and winding paths through
           | residential areas. I didn't want to overplan though. Getting
           | lost was part of the goal. All I knew was that I had to head
           | east.
        
         | tetrep wrote:
         | While a compass helps with orientation, it doesn't help you
         | find where you are or where you're going, so a map might be a
         | good addition (or a replacement, as I find it pretty trivial to
         | orient myself in a city when given a map).
         | 
         | Why a disposable camera? I would think any user preferred
         | camera would be fine, even a cell phone (just put it in
         | airplane mode to avoid distractions).
        
           | famahar wrote:
           | With a disposable you'll need to be more intentional about
           | how you want to capture moments. You only have 20 shots and
           | no extra features to create the "best" shot. You begin to
           | really value moments when you know that it'll make the cut
           | for one of the 20. And you don't over think it. Just a quick
           | snap is all you can do. Every shot matters but at the same
           | time doesn't.
        
             | gottorf wrote:
             | As someone who used to be very into photography, there are
             | two other artistic advantages of a disposable camera or
             | film cameras in general.
             | 
             | One, that you cannot see the photo you just took; it makes
             | you more careful with your framing (similarly to your point
             | about only having so many shots), and further helps you
             | stay connected to the scene, instead of "chimping" the shot
             | you just took.
             | 
             | Two, that because there is a period of time elapsed between
             | when you take the shots and when you get back the results
             | after the film has been processed, there is an additional
             | delight factor when you get your photos back, and it can
             | help you see your shots in a different light.
             | 
             | It's an interesting phenomenon that a technically superior
             | implementation don't always mean the artistically superior
             | implementation. Of course, a working photographer (working
             | in news or sports) will sensibly choose the technically
             | superior implementation; but the dilettante has more
             | options, and I encourage all of them to explore those
             | options.
        
             | tetrep wrote:
             | Ah, okay. I'm pretty judicious with my camera use anyway so
             | I didn't realize people needed help with that.
        
             | creole_wither wrote:
             | [dead]
        
             | dreamcompiler wrote:
             | TIL disposable cameras are still available, and apparently
             | quite popular for weddings.
        
               | ianburrell wrote:
               | I'm surprised they are still a thing of weddings now that
               | everyone has smartphones. Maybe they are considered
               | nostalgic for the period before smartphones and digital
               | cameras. Or maybe there is no good way to share photos
               | from guests.
        
         | gullywhumper wrote:
         | For my 30th birthday a group of friends and I walked the
         | perimeter of Manhattan island. Except for a section along the
         | Harlem river, there are paths along the water the entire way so
         | it required almost no navigation. We picked up and dropped off
         | friends along way that only wanted to do parts of the walk. And
         | we stopped at several bars too, meeting other friends that just
         | wanted to have a drink. We started at 8am and finished just
         | after 4am. I would definitely do it again, even without the
         | friends or bars - but they definitely made it a memorable
         | adventure.
        
           | screye wrote:
           | Manhattan is my favorite city to walk in alone.
           | 
           | Manhattan can be enjoyed without ever bringing your gaze to
           | the ground level. The diversity of architecture means that
           | every block feels fresh. World renowned classics, the sheer
           | scale of central park and the greatest hits of art-deco. Pair
           | that with new spots like the Highline, Hudson yards, Little
           | island.... and it keeps on giving.
           | 
           | And then you come back down to earth and Manhattan also
           | happens to be the best city for people watching. What a
           | delight !
        
             | mcntsh wrote:
             | I really do not like walking in Manhattan. The city blocks
             | are so short so you're constantly having to cross hectic
             | streets, an the grid nature of the city means you're pretty
             | much walking in long, straight lines. In my opinion, it's
             | hectic and at the same time monotonous.
        
             | prisoner3986 wrote:
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           | gcanyon wrote:
           | I've biked that route several times, but I bet we got
           | entirely different impressions due to travel method.
        
         | cpursley wrote:
         | You can't really walk across North American cities, they just
         | don't have the pedestrian infrastructure.
        
           | macintux wrote:
           | Sadly true. I've walked miles across parts of Indianapolis
           | where I've been at significant risk of being hit. No
           | sidewalk, and bridges are hair-raising.
        
           | tornato7 wrote:
           | Most cities have a coastline or a river that you can walk a
           | great distance along.
        
       | wink wrote:
       | I was a bit surprised that Luxembourg is actually quite a bit
       | bigger than I had thought, especially as I wasn't too far off
       | with the population. In my mind it wasn't SO much bigger than the
       | other small European countries it's often lumped together with.
       | Time to visit, I guess :P
        
         | TacticalCoder wrote:
         | > I was a bit surprised that Luxembourg is actually quite a bit
         | bigger than I had thought
         | 
         | I live in Luxembourg now and it's not _that_ small. There are
         | actually various little cities and going, say, from _Luxembourg
         | city_ to _Esch-sur-Alzette_ , driving on the highway (even if
         | it's only for a short while), feels like going to another city.
         | 
         | It sure feels funny to go to, say, IKEA, which takes 15 minutes
         | or so knowing that the IKEA store is in... Another country! (I
         | go to the one in Belgium)
         | 
         | It's a complete change for me: last year I was in a rural area
         | (in France) and the closest highway was a 50 minutes drive or
         | so.
        
         | koyote wrote:
         | It's four times larger than Singapore!
        
         | ianburrell wrote:
         | I think Luxembourg gets combined with European micro-states,
         | Andorra, San Marino, Vatican City, etc. But it is quite a bit
         | bigger than them. Luxembourg is 5x bigger than Andorra and 3.5x
         | smaller than Cyprus.
        
       | globular-toast wrote:
       | I've now completed several multi-day walks. At some point I plan
       | to walk across Britain on the Coast to Coast path. I've walked
       | across Spain and Gran Canaria. Maybe I should write those up on
       | my blog...
        
         | MHM5000 wrote:
         | definitely do that!
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | There are a lot of good long distance walks in the UK. Not
         | having done the coast-to-coast personally, I will say I've
         | heard from various people that the part in the middle of the
         | country is less interesting than the two ends given the
         | highways etc.
        
       | euroderf wrote:
       | Eager to read similar about Lichtenstein, Andorra, San Marino.
        
         | zserge wrote:
         | I hike across Liechtenstein from time to time. A very light but
         | picturesque set of trails for one day (30-50km). I usually
         | start at the south border in a Switzerland town, cross the
         | country up north and enter Austria.
         | 
         | On a much lighter category, someone "hiked" Monaco in a
         | straight line: https://magamig.github.io/posts/crossing-an-
         | entire-country-i...
        
         | lb1lf wrote:
         | ...and The Vatican! (I had a beer in Rome, then strolled across
         | The Vatican and three minutes later had another beer in
         | Rome...)
        
           | johannes1234321 wrote:
           | Issue with the Vatican in this context so, that major parts
           | of it are blocked off for the public.
        
         | CastFX wrote:
         | I live in San Marino, let me chime in!
         | 
         | The historic center, which is called San Marino Citta, is a
         | gorgeous medieval town and it's also part of UNESCO heritage. I
         | definitely recommend a trip there, if you happen to be
         | somewhere near.
         | 
         | When I went to school there, I regularly missed the bus so I
         | had the chance of doing a few walks down to my home. It's a bit
         | steep, since the town is located at the top of mount Titano at
         | 700m of height, but it's truly charming.
        
           | euroderf wrote:
           | When I tried to buy stamps direct from SM back in the 70s,
           | and addressed mail to the SM post office, my local (USA) post
           | office did not believe that there was a country with that
           | name. He went thru their giant post office reference book and
           | hey there it was !
        
         | mdrzn wrote:
         | You could probably walk across and around the whole of San
         | Marino in less than a full day.
        
         | yread wrote:
         | ... and Monaco. Choose one of the roads higher up on the cliffs
        
       | smetj wrote:
       | Great read and endeavour. What a fantastic region to hike, drink
       | the finest beers with some smoked ham and enjoy the golden hour.
       | 2 other great and well documented trails are the Eisleck trail
       | and Escapardenne Lee Trail.
       | 
       | Happy trails!
        
       | coldtea wrote:
       | Sounds more impressive if you don't know Luxembourg is at max 50
       | miles long...
        
         | not_alexb wrote:
         | Wow. As someone who has driven from LA to Seattle without
         | breaks quite a few times (which is around 1,000 miles), that
         | really puts in perspective how small Europe can be at times. I
         | guess that shouldn't be surprising as that's similar to the
         | distance between Berlin and Moscow.
        
           | KineticLensman wrote:
           | There is a popular coast-to-coast walk in the UK that runs
           | across the top of England that is approx 100 miles in a
           | straight line. No-one in Britain is more than about 70 miles
           | from the sea.
        
             | airblade wrote:
             | But those 70 miles can take a disproportionately long time!
        
               | petepete wrote:
               | GeoWizard (a GeoGuessr expert YouTuber) dribbed a
               | football the whole way in under 24 hours for charity.
               | 
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzNsfDwhZLM
        
               | offices wrote:
               | And you might want to steer clear of your closest beach
        
           | mrpopo wrote:
           | That comparison makes no sense. Hawaii island is 100km large
           | and it doesn't say anything about how small the US are.
        
           | varjag wrote:
           | Well yeah, Luxembourg is smaller than basically entire US
           | Pacific Coast for sure. Most places are.
        
           | coldtea wrote:
           | > _that really puts in perspective how small Europe can be at
           | times_
           | 
           | Well, Europe is not exactly small. Luxemburg is just a small
           | country.
           | 
           | Europe is 3.93 million sq mi. The contiguous US is 3.1
           | million square miles (3.6 if we include Alaska) [1]. So
           | Europe is quite bigger. The European Union countries alone
           | are over 50% of the contiguous US.
           | 
           | So that would be like judging the US as small by considering
           | how small Rhode Island is (which is roughly the size of
           | Luxemburg).
           | 
           | > _I guess that shouldn 't be surprising as that's similar to
           | the distance between Berlin and Moscow._
           | 
           | Well, Berlin is almost centered in Europe, and Moscow is in
           | the very east of Russia, so that's not very surprising. On
           | the other hand, "the European route E45 (...) with a length
           | of about 3,225 mi is the longest north-south European route
           | (some east-west routes are longer)".
           | 
           | For comparison NY to LA is 2,790 miles (so shorter than
           | that), and even Portland, Maine to San Diego is 3,090 miles
           | (again shorter).
           | 
           | [1] With an area of 10.2 million km2 (3,938,000 sq mi),
           | Europe is 20% larger than the contiguous United States. The
           | European Union has an area (without the UK) of over 4.23
           | million km2 (1.6 million sq mi). How many countries are there
           | in Europe? Europe is shared by 50 countries.
        
             | Cockbrand wrote:
             | > Moscow is in the very east of Russia
             | 
             | I'm confused, did you mean to say that Moscow is in the
             | very _West_ of Russia?
        
               | coldtea wrote:
               | Yes, west.
               | 
               | (Well, technically not the very very west, but pretty
               | close given the scale of that country).
        
               | Cockbrand wrote:
               | Thanks! Geography isn't my strength, so I was genuinely
               | confused :)
        
       | yreg wrote:
       | Could be perhaps done as one of the easier straight line
       | missions[0].
       | 
       | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoWizard#Cross-
       | country_missio...
        
         | c-fe wrote:
         | It was attempted/done already though i dont remember their
         | success: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83fEtvKVVVw
         | 
         | In general, as a luxembourger, i am intrigued by doing it,
         | though there are several hurdles: - lots of villages, with
         | gardens you cant walk through - various highways that are
         | illegal to cross probably, and dangerous, though feasible. -
         | some big cliffs that are very dangerous. I refer to some of the
         | images in the original post
        
       | jvdvegt wrote:
       | He links to a very nice government site which seems to have an
       | interactive (and somehow coloured) Lidar map of the whole country
       | [1]. Navigation is a bit awkward (you need to double-click to
       | move around), but you can almost make out car models!
       | 
       | [1] https://lidar.geoportail.lu/
        
         | tda wrote:
         | Indeed https://github.com/potree/potree has a bit awkward
         | navigation, but there are quite a few nice lidar datasets
         | available to explore with it, like the scan of the Matterhorn.
         | I once used it to explore a dataset made by a photogrammetry
         | drone, was quite nice.
         | 
         | The entire country of the Netherlands is also available here:
         | http://ahn2.pointclouds.nl/ There is no rgb information, only
         | elevation. But you can make out individual power powerlines,
         | the scan resolution is really high.
        
           | Scarblac wrote:
           | AHN2 was measured between 2007 and 2012. AHN3 from 2014 to
           | 2019 and I believe AHN4 is actually complete now (measured
           | from 2021 to 2022?).
           | 
           | Better resolution, more up to date -- but I don't know of
           | such a nice point cloud viewer for it.
        
             | tda wrote:
             | Indeed, but the only viewer for ahn4 I know of is some
             | crappy arcgis site.
        
           | elAhmo wrote:
           | This is quite amazing, thanks for these links. Do you have
           | any more info about how was this performed? What is it used
           | for?
        
             | victormarcel wrote:
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       | codr7 wrote:
       | I'd definitely recommend poles.
       | 
       | They enable using the entire body when walking and act as
       | additional points of balance which means you don't have to focus
       | as much on just staying upright, it's like having two extra legs
       | attached at your elbows.
        
         | jillesvangurp wrote:
         | That and memory foam / gel pads in your shoes. I walk a lot
         | since the lock down and I've had knee issues in the past. Good
         | gel pads help and using your knees with light exercise actually
         | improves things. I Mostly wear sneakers. Hiking shoes tend to
         | be a bit more rigid and have less shock absorption.
         | 
         | The poles might help as well. Nordic walking, is a thing that a
         | lot of cross country skiers do in Scandinavia to stay in shape
         | during the summer. Also nice for people with balance issues or
         | weak backs of course. Done properly, it makes for an intensive
         | workout.
        
           | developer93 wrote:
           | Nordic walking seems to be popular among people of late
           | middle age in Germany too.
        
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