[HN Gopher] MacLynx beta 5: UTF-8, pull-down menus and more dial...
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MacLynx beta 5: UTF-8, pull-down menus and more dialogue boxes
Author : zdw
Score : 77 points
Date : 2023-08-21 16:11 UTC (6 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (oldvcr.blogspot.com)
| nuc1e0n wrote:
| If worldscript is needed you might as well only support Mac OS
| 8.6 and up, so you can then use Carbon 1.2 at the same time which
| has better file picker dialogs. The same app can also be used on
| power pc versions of mac os x
| johnklos wrote:
| Internet, even with modern TLS, is surprisingly usable on m68k
| machines. I recently played around with a contemporary web
| browser on my 25 MHz m68030 Amiga 3000 with AmigaDOS 3.2.1, and
| it was almost usable. I bet it'd fly on an '040.
|
| ClassicHasClass has helped to keep SO MANY systems much more
| usable than the world would have us believe. Good work, and thank
| you!
| classichasclass wrote:
| Thanks, John!
| kccqzy wrote:
| The Crypto Ancienne library which this uses has this to say
| about 68030:
|
| > Even built with -O3, our little NetBSD Macintosh IIci with a
| 25MHz 68030 and no L2 card took 22 seconds (give carl the -t
| option to disable timeouts) for a single short TLS 1.2
| transaction to a local test server; a number of Internet hosts
| we tested it with simply cut the connection instead of waiting.
| Rude!
|
| Are you sure that's "almost usable"?
| classichasclass wrote:
| (author of both) Yes, I'd agree with "almost." Some TLS sites
| will still work, if you're patient, and that penalty is all
| on the network side (there's no overhead if it's unencrypted,
| of course). On the Amiga side the UI/UX is probably pretty
| zippy once the data is actually transferred.
|
| The machine I ran and demoed it on is a clock-chipped 38MHz
| '040. Virtually everything will work there at an acceptable
| transfer speed, including TLS 1.3.
| jwells89 wrote:
| I wonder how practical it would be to build cards for these
| older machines that have hardware acceleration for various
| things like TLS, and perhaps also decoders for JPEG, PNG,
| etc. Also wonder if it would make more sense to implement
| this with decoder chips and a cheap ARM chip or an FPGA of
| some kind.
| npunt wrote:
| You might be interested in this web rendering proxy [1]
| which turns webpages into imagemapped GIFs for use on old
| systems
|
| [1] https://github.com/tenox7/wrp
| Fnoord wrote:
| That's cool!
|
| Another thing you could do is use say Mosh or Telnet to
| use Browsh. Browsh allows you to run Firefox in a
| terminal.
| classichasclass wrote:
| Well, that's more or less what things like the TCP/IP
| modems are already. You could just add an optional TLS
| layer on it.
|
| Go all the way and you'll get something like this:
| https://www.wic64.de/
| forgotmypw17 wrote:
| All browsers are welcome at the websites in my profile.
|
| I spend a lot of time testing to ensure that the "Any Browser"
| dream lives on.
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