[HN Gopher] Why your blog still needs RSS
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Why your blog still needs RSS
Author : imadj
Score : 203 points
Date : 2023-08-18 13:17 UTC (1 days ago)
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| superkuh wrote:
| And browsers need to add RSS/Atom feed autodiscovery and display
| (as the little feed icon in the URL bar) back to the browser. It
| was removed in 2018 by Firefox for no reason at all.
| marcosdumay wrote:
| > for no reason at all
|
| It was buggy and in a format that was almost useless.
|
| If you complained about losing the RSS reader on the Mozilla to
| Firefox transition, then yeah, that was a loss. But the FF one
| was never an option.
| toastal wrote:
| I used to use Fx's Live Bookmarks all the time back when it
| was still around. It made sense in organizing ones bookmarks
| to also have feeds.
| diimdeep wrote:
| Someone should delve into history and investigate who exactly
| comprises the group of people in big tech that are responsible
| for the demise of the RSS/ATOM brands. Yes, it was Google that
| shut down Reader, but who were the individuals behind this
| decision? Who removed RSS from Firefox?
|
| Even on this blog, there is only an email newsletter UI, and no
| evident way discover and to access the RSS feed unless you
| intentionally inspect the webpage source code or have installed a
| browser add-on.
| samsquire wrote:
| At one point I used wordpress as my blog but then I moved to just
| using GitHub README.md as my tech ideas journals.
|
| The idea is I don't need a RSS feed because I publish 100-800
| entries in one README.md file, then announce that batch of items
| (samsquire/ideas samsquire/ideas2 samsquire/ideas3
| samsquire/ideas4 samsquire/ideas5)
|
| In other words, a batch of entries is already a feed, because
| it's just a big document and that document should be immutable
| when I announce it finished.
|
| To append to a journal, I append to the bottom. To append to the
| blog, I prepend to the top.
|
| Low tech but it really encourages me to write down my thoughts.
| sph wrote:
| Hey Sam, as a counterpoint I'd really love if your ideas were
| somewhere with an RSS feed. I'd immediately add it to my
| Feedbin account
|
| (I'll reply to your email in a bit, was a little busy these
| days)
| samsquire wrote:
| Thanks sph!
|
| Maybe I'll write a markdown heading to RSS script?
| berkes wrote:
| IIRC it's not hard to subscribe to the commit log over RSS.
| I'd suspect the commit log might resemble the progress of
| the notes? One idea per commit, maybe?
| knorker wrote:
| It works fine, as long as you don't care if anyone reads it;
| Not all writing is for other people.
|
| If a blog like thing doesn't have RSS, and it's good, then I
| think "shame I'll never see anything this person writes ever
| again".
| Paul-Craft wrote:
| But do I want you as one of my readers, as the article
| suggests?
|
| Not that I"m specifically picking on you, but I'm just seeing
| a lot of statements in the article and no data. It's "all
| hat, no cattle," so to speak.
| knorker wrote:
| Like I said, not all writing is for other people.
| samsquire wrote:
| I think there is a market problem of attention. Search
| engines, advertisements, social media attempt to solve it.
| There is also the problem of unsolicited sharing or spam. How
| do you find the good stuff without reading through lots of
| stuff you don't want? You curate RSS feeds is one solution.
|
| If you don't want to invest in seeking that author again into
| something you were freely getting that was good, then the sad
| outcome is the lack of effort/investment on both sides (not
| providing a RSS feed, not remembering the author's website or
| name)
|
| See: why open source software is never good enough, even
| though it is free. See: if you don't invest in your
| blog/website, why should I invest my time into it?
|
| I have the same problem with GitHub projects. People spend a
| lot of time creating a wonderful GitHub project (they focus
| on the code), which is good, but they don't invest in the
| README.md and create good documentation. So I might star it
| and forget about it.
|
| If you're creating a GitHub project, please write copious
| amounts the ideas, mental model and thoughts on the README.md
|
| It's probably entitled because I want to benefit from other's
| GitHub projects. But when I'm presented with a paragraph
| about the code, it would be a lot of investment to work out
| how it is built, how it works, what is useful about it.
|
| Regarding caring if other people read my stuff, I would like
| people who are interested in the same things as me to read it
| or to introduce an idea I think has merit. But introducing
| ideas properly requires exposition. So I need to follow my
| own advice and create exposition for my thoughts for
| consumption by others.
| knorker wrote:
| This is not about an attention economy. It's not about not
| remembering your name or website. It's about there being no
| way to follow you.
|
| Your content needs to be maybe three orders of magnitude
| better, to have the slightest chance of getting polled.
|
| I would rather write a bot that scrapes your site and
| creates an RSS feed, than poll it manually.
|
| A blog without an RSS feed is like a restaurant 20km away
| that's open one random hour a week. The food may be
| amazing, but I'll never eat there. 167 times out of 168
| visits it'll be closed.
|
| So even trying to visit that restaurant sounds like
| masochism.
|
| If you write a blog, or open source, and hide it in a
| basement behind a door labelled "beware of the leopard",
| then it's just cause and effect that nobody will consume
| it.
| throw0101a wrote:
| > _How do you find the good stuff without reading through
| lots of stuff you don 't want?_
|
| Finding and following are two different things.
|
| I can find / stumble upon interesting sites in any number
| of ways. But if I am interested, do you expect me to
| remember your URL? To remember to regularly to type in a
| URL and see if there are new posts?
|
| I have NetNewsWire to inform me of new posts, so unless you
| show up there, life is too short for manual checking.
| BaculumMeumEst wrote:
| what proportion of web traffic would you guess to be driven by
| RSS rather than search engines or social media? even among tech
| blogs?
| Hackbraten wrote:
| Every time I want to track some news source (or software release
| list) and that source offers no RSS/Atom feed, I add that missing
| feed myself.
|
| For example, I wrote a feed generator that targets a specific
| software package release page. It scrapes the page and converts
| it to an Atom feed [1]. I then wrote a matching systemd service,
| which triggers the scraper once a day [2] and writes it to a
| file, no hosting required. My RSS reader is pointed to that file.
|
| [1]: https://github.com/claui/release-feed-
| mediola/blob/fca39e897...
|
| [2]: https://github.com/claui/release-feed-
| mediola/blob/fca39e897...
| ulrischa wrote:
| Read last week, that freshrss has a new scraping feature:
| https://danq.me/2022/09/27/freshrss-xpath/
| remram wrote:
| Fortunately Git tags are almost as good as RSS entries, it is
| easy to get a list of versions from somebody as long as they
| are creating tags in a Git repo.
|
| There is not usually support in reader software though, so a
| little scripting is still required, unless they use a Git
| hosting platform that exposes those as RSS (GitHub and GitLab
| do).
| captn3m0 wrote:
| These would be nice contributions to rss bridge.
| Vinnl wrote:
| I created [1]: you put a couple of CSS selectors into a config
| file, push it up to GitHub, and then GitHub actions will run
| twice a day to update the feed, and host it on GitHub Pages.
|
| [1] https://feed-me-up-scotty.vincenttunru.com/
| gabereiser wrote:
| oh this is really cool. It requires zero infrastructure on
| the user's part (just a github repo) and does exactly what it
| advertises. Great job. I'm going to start using this.
| 45473wy wrote:
| The only time I used RSS feeds was to automate torrenting.
| nologic01 wrote:
| > bloggers can provide partial RSS feeds that contain only
| snippets
|
| This plays well with federated microblogging (mastodon and
| friends). RSS can play both the role of signaling that new
| content is available and (if desired) providing that content. The
| signaling aspect is more fundamental imho.
|
| A user-centric web should aim to help people manage information
| overflow without dependency on gatekeepers and their opaque and
| manipulated algorithmic timelines. There is a certain catch-22
| with supply (of RSS feeds) and demand (users with RSS readers).
|
| The ideal would be that users could consume and share RSS feeds
| with the lowest possible friction and highest possible privacy,
| e.g. have feed readers integrated into the browser (live
| bookmarks [1] sadly removed from firefox) or their email client
| [2] (thunderbird offers this).
|
| [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/live-bookmarks
|
| [2] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-
| feed...
| Vanit wrote:
| Literally the only reason I even read HN is because of RSS.
| victorbjorklund wrote:
| Why? How are you using RSS for HN?
| 0xblaze wrote:
| Check out below link to get more customized, topic wise rss
| feeds.
|
| https://hnrss.github.io/
| stOneskull wrote:
| protopage is a fine page
| AndrewDucker wrote:
| With https://news.ycombinator.com/rss through Feedly, for me.
| lawn wrote:
| Om that note, what are some good RSS readers?
|
| Preferably a self-hosted aggregator and some Android app that can
| sync with it.
| EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote:
| I use a telegram bot @rss2tg_bot.
| FredrikMeyer wrote:
| I'm vert happy with miniflux. I have run it in a Docker
| container on Digital Ocean for a few years.
| ernesth wrote:
| Also happy with miniflux. On android, I use Fluent Reader to
| sync: https://hyliu.me/fluent-reader-lite/
| toastal wrote:
| I'm self-hosting Miniflux & use it in the browser or with
| Newsboat. It's lacking a few features (namely the ability
| to give multiple tags to feeds for organizing/consumption),
| but ultimately it's low-bloat & good on resource usage.
| scary-size wrote:
| I'm not going to regularly read your blog if it doesn't have RSS.
| Discovery happens here or on Reddit, after that it's RSS or bust.
| On the plus side, I can't remember the last blog that didn't have
| a feed.
|
| For my main blog [1], I manually update the feed.xml, on my
| ,,micro" blog [2] I have a cron job doing it.
|
| [1] https://franz.hamburg
|
| [2] https://atoms.franz.hamburg
| [deleted]
| rambambram wrote:
| I like the idea of having two feeds. One blog for long form
| articles, and one as a microblog (that I usually call a
| timeline). This way, you have your own self-hosted twitter or
| facebook-like timeline with short posts.
|
| With Hey Homepage, I also built-in the RSS reader. I'm
| following a lot of 'dev blogs' that I find here on HN. I'm now
| in the process of curating an automatic newsletter for myself
| out of all the feeds I follow (752 feeds and counting, although
| I should remove some).
|
| My dream goal is to make this more interactive. I would love to
| be able to shoot simple messages to other websites and thank
| them for their content or add something to the discussion (just
| like happens on centralized HN here). If I for myself can get
| rid of Big Tech as the middle man between my website and
| others, I would be really happy. Right now, I use simple
| comment forms under my post, but I soon found out what the
| boundaries are for decentralized software like this. Still, I
| think RSS has way more potential than it is used for nowadays.
| rascul wrote:
| > I'm not going to regularly read your blog if it doesn't have
| RSS.
|
| This goes for news sites as well. I used to subscribe to the
| RSS feed of a local news site, for example. At some point they
| turned it off. I haven't been back to that news site.
| karaterobot wrote:
| > Back in the early days of blogging, the tech press bashed RSS
| out of existence as it was supposedly too complex for ordinary
| users.
|
| I don't remember that being the case. The tech press probably had
| various opinions on RSS. The ones I read were all fine with it,
| if they mentioned it at all, but that could just be my bubble. At
| any rate, what damaged RSS' adoption was not articles about it.
| People not knowing how to use it definitely didn't help. Content
| sources wanting to create walled gardens (how did that work out?)
| hurt a lot. Google Reader going away hurt a lot too. Everybody
| spending 100% of their time on Facebook or Twitter probably hurt
| the most. But tech press articles, that's one I don't remember
| being a major factor.
| velcrovan wrote:
| I wrote a rigorous Atom/RSS feed generating library in Racket:
| Splitflap (https://joeldueck.com/what-about/splitflap/)
| KronisLV wrote:
| Being able to aggregate feeds in a consistent format is pretty
| nice. That's more or less what let me create the Hacker News
| Personal Blogs site: https://hn-blogs.kronis.dev/
|
| It's thanks to the original HN thread where people linked their
| blogs and then someone crawling them for RSS feeds to make an
| OPML summary, I just get the posts daily now (after getting the
| list of feeds from GitHub).
|
| I actually wrote about some of the challenges of doing that on my
| own blog, in the "Ever wanted to read thousands of tech blogs?
| Now you can!" post: https://blog.kronis.dev/articles/ever-wanted-
| to-read-thousan...
| verisimi wrote:
| When it comes to the importance of RSS to me, it is moral, almost
| spiritual. That might sound like I'm overstating it, but hear me
| out.
|
| There is lots of interesting content out there. For an individual
| to develop themselves, they need free reign to information. RSS
| allows and enables an individual's learning about reality (on the
| web).
|
| The reverse is mediated information. Corporations/governments
| would rather steer you to where they want you to go - to the
| sandboxed areas, the paddling pools of the internet. Many people
| think the internet is just youtube, facebook, instagram and
| twitter. These are social mediating platforms.
|
| RSS is probably the most anarchic technological development of
| the internet we have had. More important than crypto or mobile
| phones. Continued unmediated access to the information you are
| interested in, without being distracted is what every individual
| should be striving for.
|
| No wonder Google bent over backwards to try to kill it.
| simonw wrote:
| I built a custom blog using Django the other day, and made some
| detailed notes on how I did it since it's been a while since the
| last time.
|
| https://til.simonwillison.net/django/building-a-blog-in-djan...
|
| Atom support was easy, thanks to Django's built-in syndication
| library (a feature for over 18 years at this point
| https://github.com/django/django/commit/944de9e9e638bc239b03...)
| bob-09 wrote:
| What's the federated version of an RSS/atom feed?
| 0x073 wrote:
| RSS is already the federated version. ??? Or did you mean
| something like feedtree
| https://web.archive.org/web/20130104173140/http://www.feedtr...
| akho wrote:
| What do you mean?
| prmoustache wrote:
| RSS is a one-way communication channel publisher -> reader
| which isn't a context where the concept of federation make any
| sense.
|
| You can aggregate feeds, not federate them.
| flagrant_taco wrote:
| Why federate it? With RSS it can be individually hosted and
| owned, adding a federation layer would actually make it more
| centralized.
| qudat wrote:
| https://prose.sh for a hugo-like blog platform with built-in RSS
| support.
|
| Creating an account is as easy as SSH'ing into our content
| management system: `ssh new@prose.sh` (no email necessary).
|
| And publishing a blog is as easy as copying files to our server:
| `scp hello-world.md <user>@prose.sh:/`
|
| We also host an RSS-to-email service at https://feeds.sh using
| the same tech.
| stOneskull wrote:
| > Simply upload your images alongside your markdown files and
| then reference them from root `/`:
|
| > 
|
| if images are getting uploaded to imgs, how does referencing
| them with root work? it doesn't seem to work for me. is it
| supposed to show the pic?
| qudat wrote:
| Thanks for trying it out! It should work as-is, we hot-swap
| the relative URL for imgs.sh
|
| You can try dropping the file extension which will force the
| service to use webp. If that doesn't work, you can email me
| your user profile and I can dig in further.
| Helmut10001 wrote:
| Mkdocs [1], Hugo, Jekyll or 11ty.dev are the way to go for blogs
| these days. All have RSS plugins.
|
| [1]: https://du.nkel.dev/
| oneshtein wrote:
| Pandoc is much better when blog, pdf, and epub are goals.
| toastal wrote:
| And literally almost any other lightweight markup option will
| be better suited too. Markdown doesn't support metadata,
| details/summary, callouts/admonitions, image attributes,
| citing quotations, definition lists, etc.
| FireInsight wrote:
| Astro is my personal favorite: https://astro.build/
|
| It's like an SSG where you can write templates with modern
| components frameworks, and write content in MD / MDX. No JS is
| shipped by default, but you can opt in to it for interactivity.
|
| There are many high-quality templates, but making your own
| custom styling and layouts is easy, and you can write CSS in
| whatever way you like.
|
| MkDocs and Jekyll are more for docs in my opinion, but Hugo is
| pretty good if you hate javascript.
|
| I would recommend Astro over 11ty 100% of the time, though.
| Both are JS, with slower build times etc than with Hugo, but
| Astro integrates better with the rest of the ecosystem.
|
| Gatsby has apparently fallen off a cliff, wouldn't even
| consider it.
| Helmut10001 wrote:
| I looked at themes for 11ty.dev and astro and find that most
| distract from the actual content and focus too much on
| "boilerplate design". The examples for astro are mostly the
| standard corporate-stuff-nice-slogans-but-no-content - if I
| see such websites, I usually close tabs immediately.
|
| mkdocs, on the other hand, is made with a 100% focus on
| content, which is why I selected mkdocs for my blog. But
| different users will have different needs and there are many
| different blog types out there, so :thumbsup:
| FireInsight wrote:
| If you want the focus to be only content, you probably
| don't need a template. Templates often try to be flashy,
| but you can usually cut out the bloat. Some off-the-shelf
| offerings might have more desirable results out of the box,
| but I like Astro because I want to build the site myself.
| Helmut10001 wrote:
| Yes, I agree. There is still need for structure &
| organization, here mkdocs hat superior extended Markdown
| formatting Syntax (super fences, sane lists, code
| highlights etc.), all of that makes fast reading and
| filtering of content a lot easier. None of the other
| static site generators come close for this part of
| functionality.
|
| Anyway, I completely understand your points, this is not
| meant to be ranting at astro!
| arcanemachiner wrote:
| Gotta add 11ty to that list as well:
|
| 11ty.dev
| mythz wrote:
| We're also maintaining a Free Blogging project template for C#
| Devs preferring Razor Pages technology stack, which also
| includes support for RSS by default.
|
| Like Hugo it lets you create statically-rendered, CDN hostable
| websites, but includes dedicated support for authoring and
| publishing blogs, here's what the primary blog view looks like:
|
| https://razor-ssg.web-templates.io/blog
|
| https://razor-ssg.web-templates.io/feed.xml (RSS Feed)
|
| Other generated views for exploring blog archives:
|
| - https://razor-ssg.web-templates.io/posts/ (explore blog
| archive)
|
| - https://razor-ssg.web-templates.io/posts/author/lucy-bates
| (by author)
|
| - https://razor-ssg.web-templates.io/posts/tagged/dev (by tag)
|
| And for those wanting a privacy alternative to Disqus and
| Mailchimp, it can also integrate with CreatorKit [1] - a Free
| OSS .NET App you can self-host to enable Comments on Blog Posts
| including managing Newsletter mailing lists subscriptions which
| includes support for generating and sending Monthly Newsletters
| from new content added to your Razor SSG website - all features
| we're also using to power our blog features [2].
|
| [1] https://servicestack.net/creatorkit/
|
| [2] https://servicestack.net/blog
| langsoul-com wrote:
| If superfans and economics was your aim, wouldn't email news
| lists be better?
|
| Got whatever reason, people would actually pay for a news list.
| diimdeep wrote:
| Why Firefox removed RSS support? It felt like betrayal of open
| web.
| toastal wrote:
| I believe usage numbers were low, but it was likely most
| beloved by power users, which is the same audience that
| disables the telemetry & experiments as that trust has been
| abused on more than one occassion in the past. SSB was removed
| because it had low usage despite it being behind an
| about:config flag.
| [deleted]
| galleywest200 wrote:
| I had to fork the Hugo theme I chose because the designer felt
| that RSS was not important to link to, even though Hugo
| automatically generates it each time you execute the command.
| fouc wrote:
| name and shame
| throwaway154 wrote:
| A blog post, saying blogs still need RSS, without a human
| discoverable RSS feed.
|
| I'd post a comment pointing this out, but a 'Discuss' link to a
| 3rd party site, not part of the blog, remark.as tells me I need
| to login to write.as
|
| At this point I conclude the writer's failing to drink their own
| coffee let alone eat any dog food.
| zulln wrote:
| > Topics I regularly blog about (append /feed/ to the uRL to
| get the RSS feed)
|
| https://journal.paoloamoroso.com/about
|
| I think I agree with your overall point, but it is mentioned on
| the site where to find the RSS feed.
| pamoroso wrote:
| I'm the author of the post and you're right. My blog is hosted
| at Write.as, which doesn't make feeds auto-discoverable.
|
| I'll definitely bring this feedback to the Write.as developer,
| thanks. I also added a link to the RSS feed to the blog's About
| page.
| throwaway154 wrote:
| That's stellar. It'll be sure to benefit others on the
| platform.
| damnesian wrote:
| >RSS feeds make web scraping and content stealing easier. This is
| a legitimate concern.
|
| This is a negative way of looking at the reality- rarely
| mentioned in articles about RSS: RSS may be "dead-" however,
| there are many mobile apps that are fed by RSS feeds. Having one
| may risk some loss of revenue- but you'll lose even more by
| simply being omitted from these aggregator apps, all of which (i
| mean, ok.. probably all) link back to the source website. That's
| a huge potential for added exposure and revenue.
| memefrog wrote:
| > This is a legitimate concern.
|
| This isn't even true. If you publish information on the web,
| then people are going to download it to their computers. That's
| the whole point of providing it. When someone accesses your
| website, your web server _actively_ responds with the web page.
|
| Complaining about people doing this is like complaining that
| someone asked you for money and then you gave it to them. Yeah,
| they asked, and you gave it to them? If you don't like it,
| don't give it to them.
|
| In other words, if you don't like people scraping your website,
| _don 't give them your web pages when they ask for them_.
| karaterobot wrote:
| Does RSS make web scraping easier, or does it make it so you
| can avoid doing web scraping altogether? Web scraping is hard
| to stop, but if people just want to get the content, an RSS
| feed probably uses less resources for everybody compared to web
| scraping.
| mikae1 wrote:
| .
| JimDabell wrote:
| This would effectively remove you from search engine indexes
| as well. To fix that, you would have to add that URL to
| robots.txt, but any decent scraping tool would also pay
| attention to that so you'd be back to square one.
| mrd3v0 wrote:
| You can probably find or pre-emptively exclude search
| engine indicies IPs from the blocklist. It isn't like there
| are more than a few out there, sadly.
| mikae1 wrote:
| .
| [deleted]
| Zuiii wrote:
| I include RSS feeds specifically because I want make it easy
| for website users to use my site, even for scrappers (and
| independent search engines, and AI training, ..etc). The idea
| of "stealing" content doesn't even make sense. How does one
| even steal information.
|
| People who think like this need to get over themselves.
| lelanthran wrote:
| > People who think like this need to get over themselves.
|
| So it's fine if someone took the fruits of your labor and
| sold it without permission?
| nicbou wrote:
| I live from my website. Stolen content uses my labour but
| routes its fruits to someone else who adds no value. I'm
| competing against copies of my own work.
|
| Worst of all, the lazily copied versions of my work introduce
| serious errors because the authors don't know what they're
| talking about.
|
| Oh and some copies are used for phishing scams, so that's
| another concern.
| davidcbc wrote:
| It's incredibly common to only publish a headline and
| summary to RSS and then have people click through to your
| site for the full article, so it seems like you're blaming
| RSS for what is a user error
| toastal wrote:
| This lessens the payload of the RSS as well not shipping
| dozens of whole articles.
| memefrog wrote:
| >Stolen content uses my labour but routes its fruits to
| someone else who adds no value.
|
| This has nothing to do with "web scraping". Scraping means
| downloading. What you are complaining about is copyright
| infringement: they are downloading your web pages and re-
| uploading them elsewhere. That's completely unrelated.
| nicbou wrote:
| They're the same. It's just a matter of whether a machine
| or a human does the paraphrasing. With AI, the latter
| will become very common.
| memefrog wrote:
| Downloading and uploading are not the same. 'Scraping' a
| website is just what all of us do every day.
| nicbou wrote:
| [flagged]
| pomstazlesa wrote:
| I understand this issue and really feel sorry for anyone
| who has to deal with this. I just don't understand how
| explicitly not implementing RSS would even her with this
| [not saying you specifically claim this]
| nicbou wrote:
| It enables machine-stealing. The sort where the whole
| content gets copied and hosted on a content farm. This is
| admittedly a smaller threat as those rank very poorly in
| the search results. I was mainly answering directly to
| the parent comment who doesn't understand why people
| don't like their work to be stolen.
|
| This is what stops me from open sourcing the whole
| website, since it's just Markdown. It would be good to
| open it up to contributions, but the website is already
| copied enough as it is.
| prmoustache wrote:
| Having the web pages accessible publicly are what makes
| machine stealing possible, rss has nothing to do with
| that.
| pomstazlesa wrote:
| > It enables machine-stealing. The sort where the whole
| content gets copied and hosted on a content farm.
|
| I understand that but lack of RSS is not going to prevent
| that. It's barely a roadblock for those who steal.
| matheusmoreira wrote:
| > It enables machine-stealing.
|
| Publishing your website _at all_ does that. Feeds are not
| at all required to scrape websites.
| input_sh wrote:
| My personal favourite: someone stealing a random post,
| backdating it to a couple of days before I published it,
| and then sending a DMCA to my hosting provider for my own
| damn article.
| nicbou wrote:
| Does that happen? Hot damn. I never considered this
| attack vector. It's brilliantly evil.
| extra88 wrote:
| That sounds made up but they don't need an RSS feed to do
| that. RSS could actually help with your defense because
| it means others could have a copy of your post from your
| feed fetched before the liar's.
| Finnucane wrote:
| And it assumes you're blogging for money, which is not
| universally the case. If you're not blogging for money, those
| objections are of no value.
| easeout wrote:
| I don't get the argument at all. If someone is so averse to
| publishing a feed of full article text, they can still publish
| a feed of headlines, first paragraphs, and "read more." It's
| tedious to read those but much better than no feed.
| berkes wrote:
| I actually like it when feeds have some sort of TLDR in their
| feed body. It works as a quick way to determine if I want to
| read the article or can skip it.
|
| Fowler's blog does this (or maybe Feedly does?) but not many
| others, afaik
| berkes wrote:
| Now that I think of it: that would a very nice use of an
| LLM: some proxy where I put an RSS into, and that publishes
| a modified RSS feed where the <description> is then
| replaced with a very short summary of the original
| description.
| pamoroso wrote:
| I'm the author of the linked post and I agree with both of you.
| But this is an objection I got on an earlier draft of the post,
| so I mentioned it.
| ekianjo wrote:
| If its in a rss its not called web scraping...
| lagniappe wrote:
| I built a tiny unopinionated static site generator that is great
| for blogs. No toolchain or anything fancy, it has RSS support too
| :) It would be my pleasure if someone wants to try it
| https://github.com/donuts-are-good/bearclaw
| mbork_pl wrote:
| Same here: https://gitlab.com/mbork_mbork_pl/org-clive. A very
| minimalistic, but more-or-less feature complete (though not yet
| stable) blogging engine in under 400 lines of Elisp. Obviously,
| it supports RSS.
| mcdonje wrote:
| Can't promise I'll give it a try, but I like the idea of a
| static site generator that's little more than a markdown to
| html converter.
|
| BTW, I love the word 'lagniappe'. It really should be more
| widely used.
| lagniappe wrote:
| Hey thanks, on both ;) not too often I come across people who
| know about lagniappe
| nicbou wrote:
| My RSS feed is just a summary. This works well enough.
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