[HN Gopher] Ubicloud - open, free and portable cloud
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       Ubicloud - open, free and portable cloud
        
       Author : dkgs1998
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2023-08-16 21:31 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | elitan wrote:
       | Is there a demo available?
        
       | mdaniel wrote:
       | https://github.com/ubicloud/ubicloud#how-is-this-different-t...
       | was my immediate question, although they left off "and the
       | license is different" but I guess that's implied
       | 
       | As for the "as a managed service" part, I believe Open Metal
       | (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35087879 ) is trying to
       | fill in that gap with actual open source software
       | 
       | I cannot speak to the "6 key services in GA form in the next two
       | years" aspiration since I don't know what the other 3 are that
       | you're going after in order to know how impactful they'll be
        
       | bashy wrote:
       | The thing you pay for with cloud servers is not having to do the
       | up-keep of the host machine. They tend to have many more drives
       | than you'd get with a bare metal server.
       | 
       | I have many OVH and Hetzner servers (cloud and dedicated) but not
       | sure I'd find a use for this.
        
         | CharlesW wrote:
         | > _The thing you pay for with cloud servers is not having to do
         | the up-keep of the host machine._
         | 
         | That's what you pay public cloud service providers for, but
         | private clouds are considered to be a thing as well.
         | https://aws.amazon.com/what-is/private-cloud/
        
       | rafaelturk wrote:
       | love this.. we've in the process of leaving the traditional cloud
       | powered by microk8s
        
       | Cantinflas wrote:
       | >Available on GitHub under the Elastic v2 license.
       | 
       | So... not open source?
        
         | dal wrote:
         | I hate the trend of these freemium faux FOSS poser projects
         | that keep popping up.
        
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         | lifty wrote:
         | Do they pretend and mention it's open source? If not, I don't
         | see a problem.
        
           | zxwrt wrote:
           | Yes.
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           | > ... An open source cloud that can run anywhere.
           | 
           | > ... Open-source or managed for you. Available on GitHub
           | under the Elastic v2 license.
           | 
           | Taken from here: https://ubicloud.com/
        
         | zxwrt wrote:
         | Looks like another fauxpen source, yes.
        
         | j1elo wrote:
         | For once, someone got it right and didn't claim with bold,
         | uppercase letters that it's an Open Source project, like it
         | usually happens with a lot of HN entries of that topic. Lately,
         | the relicense of some Sentry product to a non-OSS license that
         | was wrongly called "Open Source" just because the source was
         | shared. As deserved, these kinds of usages tend to receive a
         | good amount of backlash due to wrongly using the term.
         | 
         | But here, all is right, I don't see where anyone could base any
         | complaint. Except for being entitled to instruct others about
         | the license they should use for their own work, that is. I'd
         | say they are walking the line with insisting on how "open" this
         | solution is, but it doesn't really cross any line.
         | 
         | They are missing a very strong 4th line in " _How is this
         | different than OpenStack?_ " [1], though: OpenStack is Apache
         | 2.0, aka. proper OSS, thus you can use or host it in whatever
         | way you want, even use it to create an IaaS if you wanted. With
         | UbiCloud, I didn't read the license, but probably not.
         | 
         | [1]: https://github.com/ubicloud/ubicloud#how-is-this-
         | different-t...
        
           | unixhero wrote:
           | They have an "open source" image right there on their front
           | page
        
           | cyphar wrote:
           | It says OPEN SOURCE in bold uppercase letters on their web
           | page...
        
         | 38 wrote:
         | normally I give "open source" comments like this the label they
         | deserve, which is "troll". however in this case it seems
         | justified:
         | 
         | > You may not move, change, disable, or circumvent the license
         | key functionality in the software, and you may not remove or
         | obscure any functionality in the software that is protected by
         | the license key.
         | 
         | https://elastic.co/licensing/elastic-license
        
       | revskill wrote:
       | Interesting choice on Ruby. Why Ruby in first place ?
        
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