[HN Gopher] ParkyTowers: Thin Clients Laid Bare
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       ParkyTowers: Thin Clients Laid Bare
        
       Author : tetris11
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2023-08-14 16:44 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.parkytowers.me.uk)
        
       | kotaKat wrote:
       | I just wish getting "good" VDI at a small scale to leverage a
       | small fleet (say, 3-4) of thin clients was easy.
       | 
       | VMware Horizon requires /massive/ amounts of resources on its own
       | (something like 14-20 GB of RAM for the required services VMs
       | alone), Citrix is a nightmare all its own, and I'm not sure how
       | what else would work well out there.
        
         | zamadatix wrote:
         | The RDP based ones are pretty straightforward to get going
         | without a massive base infrastructure. Even with the intended
         | way of running Windows Server as the host you can easily have
         | 3-4 clients run on one meager server with no need for a
         | managing VMs at all, unless you really want to do it that way.
         | 
         | On the Linux side I use persistent systemd-nspawn containers
         | with bind mount access to the main storage. I suppose it's
         | possible to do the same thing there, though I've never tried.
        
         | whalesalad wrote:
         | proxmox can support vdi infra
        
         | rkeene2 wrote:
         | I actually built this using my on-premises cloud platform in
         | the past [0]. It was using Service Templates from OpenNebula,
         | and would automatically scale the VMs based on number of users,
         | setup the load balancer, acquire an TLS certificate, etc.
         | 
         | Once you have OpenNebula running (which is really easy),
         | developing the re-usable VDI system took me about a week.
         | 
         | [0] https://rkeene.org/viewer/tmp/vdi-service-template.png.htm
        
       | DrPhish wrote:
       | I love repurposing thin clients.
       | 
       | There were a few gens of HP thin clients that always seemed to
       | have their mass storage devices die, and end up on eBay for
       | peanuts.
       | 
       | I picked up a handful of the 64-bit CPU ones and set them up to
       | boot diskless with LibreELEC to act as Kodi stations for eg.
       | media streaming and distributed video players on TVs on my
       | network.
       | 
       | They boot quickly enough to not need to think about them too
       | much, and it was easy to NFS mount my media library from my main
       | servers.
       | 
       | Kodi controller apps from my phone and things like
       | AirPlay/TuneBlade to cast arbitrary stuff to them has been a real
       | quality of life improvement for my family.
        
       | znpy wrote:
       | I knew a guy that was able to save the local school tens of
       | thousands of euros by rebuilding the computer lab with a single
       | beefy computer and many (40?) of these thin clients by using
       | linux and LTSP.
        
       | joshstrange wrote:
       | This is some of my favorite types of content on the interest. Not
       | for profit, labor of love, sharing knowledge, evergreen.
       | 
       | On of my favorite things to do on the internet is to add context
       | or explain how I solved a problem to older "content". As in an
       | old SO question, an abandoned Github issue, or, until recently,
       | an old reddit post. I know that only a few people will see what I
       | wrote but I know that they will benefit greatly from it (as
       | normally it's something that's taken me anywhere from 30min to 8+
       | hours to solve and I want to document it). I've typed the words
       | "I hope this helps someone else" many times and it always leaves
       | a smile on my face.
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | joshstrange wrote:
       | If you were intrigued, like me, by the line:
       | 
       | > These days the answer to that is simples (in Meerkat speak -
       | possibly lost on those of you who don't see UK TV advertising).
       | 
       | You can watch the commercial here (watch till the end):
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0mXUC0cUPg
       | 
       | (I assume there were multiple variants, I just found this one)
        
         | TRiG_Ireland wrote:
         | They're cultural icons. There's cultural analysis (are they
         | gay?) [1] and fanfic (seriously!) [2].
         | 
         | 1: https://youtu.be/7SUeWVEpgdY 2:
         | https://archiveofourown.org/tags/comparethemarket*d*com%20%2...
        
           | joshstrange wrote:
           | Dear god. I'm halfway through the first video, of which I was
           | _not_ going to watch all of due to the length, I was only
           | going to watch a minute or two, cut to 11 minutes later and
           | I've almost had to pause at how hard I am laughing. This is
           | amazing and my life is better for knowing more about these
           | hilarious commercials, the world building in them, and the
           | impact of them that this video is represents. Pure gold.
           | Thank you.
        
       | nintendo1889 wrote:
       | K-Meleon still runs well on older hardware (as well as Opera 12).
       | 
       | The best upgrade for my old x86 hardware seems to be Haiku OS.
       | The browser situation is getting better all the time. As the
       | overall system becomes more stable, even the full-featured non-
       | native QT-based browsers will be more stable as well.
       | 
       | Other thoughts: nextcloud server running a single service
       | (multiple nextcloud services will run like a dog on small
       | hardware).
       | 
       | TinyTinyRSS gateway/server (your own google reader).
       | 
       | Text only usenet caching server via gmane.io and the other
       | servers like sdf.org.
       | 
       | SSH / VPN gateway.
       | 
       | I have the first gen Apple TV and it makes for a great streaming
       | server and networked stereo system.
        
         | znpy wrote:
         | I run nextcloud on a thin client, but i mist admit it's not
         | that "thin" actually.
         | 
         | It's the fujitsu esprimo q920 (iirc) and it features a 4th gen
         | core i5 (4c/4t) and 16gb ram. It's been working fairly well for
         | the last ~3 years.
        
       | thunfisch wrote:
       | Wow, this one brings back memories.
       | 
       | I've ran one of the
       | https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/z/z90d7/ for some years
       | as a cheap (40EUR) homeserver and then later as a break-music-
       | playback-machine for concerts with spotifyd.
       | 
       | And over 10 years ago I had one of the
       | https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/EvoT20/ to play around with. I
       | never really got that one working in a meaningful way though.
       | 
       | Both times this page helped out a lot with technical details!
       | Nice to see it on here. A treasure trove of hacking starting
       | points to repurpose quite slow, but still useful hardware (and
       | saving it from a landfill).
        
         | tetris11 wrote:
         | ~ 9W running when off (?)
        
           | jabroni_salad wrote:
           | very common with flash based doodads. check out what cable
           | tuners are drawing when 'off'.
        
       | res0nat0r wrote:
       | Company I used to work at had a handful of Sun Ray's which all
       | connected to either an 880 or 6800 in our datacenters if I
       | remember correctly. I always thought they were really cool. I'd
       | love to have something like this for my current setup as I have a
       | large PC with tons of cords and crap all over the place at my
       | desk. Something nice and small but connecting to hardware in the
       | closet where all that mess is hidden would be nice.
       | 
       | https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/sun/SunRay1/
       | 
       | https://www.spectra.com/sun/used-systems/193/sunfire-v890.ht...
       | 
       | http://www.anysystem.com/sunfire-6800-special-1.html
        
         | aidenn0 wrote:
         | With two CAT-6 cables, you can run HDMI and USB-2 (to a hub for
         | keyboard/mouse) a fairly long distance with the right
         | extenders:
         | 
         | (Note that one reason the HDMI costs $300 is that it does not
         | compress the video; the $30 ones you can find have much longer
         | range, but will use compression).
         | 
         | 1: https://www.pulse-eight.com/p/185/neolite-hdmi-extender-set
         | 
         | 2: https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Extender-
         | CAT5E-Connection-1...
        
           | chrchr wrote:
           | There are also some super long fiber optic Thunderbolt 3
           | cables on the market, though like the HDMI-over-cat-6
           | solution, they are not cheap:
           | 
           | Optical Cables by Corning Thunderbolt 3 USB Type-C Male
           | Optical Cable, 50m https://a.co/d/beERef6
        
             | aidenn0 wrote:
             | Looking at that found this item, which seems to cheap to be
             | good (under $100 for 8k DP over fibre):
             | https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B4S3F5CK/
        
               | kijiki wrote:
               | I've been using this $32 15m one for a few weeks:
               | https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098QC6XWS
               | 
               | It claims 8k60, but I've only used 4k60 though.
        
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