[HN Gopher] How green is your electric vehicle really?
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       How green is your electric vehicle really?
        
       Author : heresie-dabord
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2023-08-10 22:02 UTC (59 minutes ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.economist.com)
        
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       | swader999 wrote:
       | Solar panels are almost exclusively made in China now using coal.
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       | The carbon economics of EVs were and still are based on older EU
       | solar production that relied on natural gas for energy. Nobody
       | has done the recalc.
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       | There's hardly a net benefit now.
        
         | Tade0 wrote:
         | Solar panels were throughly scrutinised for years:
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         | https://solarscorecard.org/past-scorecards
        
           | swader999 wrote:
           | Those scorecards prove my point. One, they don't actually
           | rate or calculate the net coal used to make the panels. Two,
           | the dirty producers market share isn't at all described.
        
       | ZeroGravitas wrote:
       | Definitely a missed opportunity to make the EV Hummer a small
       | city car or possibly even a bicycle.
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       | But I guess the EV platform forced their hand and they had to
       | make it a big truck, like all the other Hummers.
        
       | oatmeal1 wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/ZGn27
        
       | melling wrote:
       | There's no story here.
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       | "Lucien Mathieu of Transport and Environment, a European NGO,
       | says that even the biggest EVs have lower lifetime carbon
       | emissions than the average conventional car. That is true even in
       | places with plenty of coal-fired electricity, such as China."
        
         | oatmeal1 wrote:
         | Carbon emissions are far from the only source of pollution in
         | making and maintaining a car.
        
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