[HN Gopher] Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing - CFO leaves Tesla
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       Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing - CFO leaves Tesla
        
       Author : freedude
       Score  : 47 points
       Date   : 2023-08-07 21:28 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | freedude wrote:
       | Item 5.02 Departure of Directors or Principal Officers; Election
       | of Directors; Appointment of Principal Officers.
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       | As of August 4, 2023, Tesla, Inc. ("Tesla") appointed Vaibhav
       | Taneja as Chief Financial Officer in addition to his current role
       | as Chief Accounting Officer, to succeed Zachary Kirkhorn. Mr.
       | Kirkhorn stepped down as of August 4, after a thirteen-year
       | tenure with the company, the last four years of which he has
       | served as Master of Coin and Chief Financial Officer. During his
       | tenure, Tesla has seen tremendous expansion and growth. Tesla
       | thanks Mr. Kirkhorn for his significant contributions. Mr.
       | Kirkhorn will continue to serve Tesla through the end of the year
       | to support a seamless transition.
       | 
       | Prior to this appointment as CFO, Mr. Taneja, 45, served as
       | Tesla's Chief Accounting Officer since March 2019, as Corporate
       | Controller from May 2018, and as Assistant Corporate Controller
       | between February 2017 and May 2018. Mr. Taneja served in various
       | finance and accounting roles at SolarCity Corporation from March
       | 2016. Prior to that, Mr. Taneja was employed at
       | PricewaterhouseCoopers in both India and the U.S. between July
       | 1999 and March 2016.
        
         | bawolff wrote:
         | For anyone else wondering, the master of the coin title is just
         | musk being trying to be cute
         | https://winteriscoming.net/2021/03/16/tesla-executive-offici...
         | . For a moment i was wondering if that was an actual common
         | corporate title.
        
           | kccqzy wrote:
           | Also mentioned in your link: He also named himself technoking
           | in addition to CEO.
        
           | justapassenger wrote:
           | It was more of an attempt to get another day of media
           | attention, and to make some bucks during crypto/investment
           | craze of COVID times, by presenting themselves as a "cool
           | company".
        
           | toolz wrote:
           | Maybe more charitably stated, it's a fun title to break the
           | monotony of common titles. Surely just because we disagree
           | with musk on other decisions we don't have to denigrate some
           | harmless fun.
           | 
           | I welcome the day where we treat business less seriously.
        
             | TylerE wrote:
             | I'm sure the reams of people Musk pushed out at his various
             | companies are just rollin' in the aisles over that one.
        
               | bluefishinit wrote:
               | Or any of the Tesla workers that have been subject to the
               | company's culture of racism:
               | https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-03-25/black-
               | tesl...
        
       | andreygrehov wrote:
       | People come, people leave. Why is that a big news?
        
         | revel wrote:
         | The CFO leaving is always a big deal. It can mean nothing but
         | it can also mean a really spectacular blowup is about to take
         | place.
        
           | andreygrehov wrote:
           | It's _always_ a big deal, but can also mean nothing? So, pure
           | speculation?
        
             | cududa wrote:
             | The vast majority of the time it's a big deal, which makes
             | it newsworthy. As well, any well run company would announce
             | at least a few quarters in advance that the CFO is leaving.
             | 
             | They don't abruptly quit or get fired after 13 years
             | without something brewing
        
               | andreygrehov wrote:
               | With respect, I do not think this is a newsworthy case.
               | 
               | > Mr. Kirkhorn will continue to serve Tesla through the
               | end of the year to support a seamless transition.
               | 
               | Absolutely zero things to discuss here.
        
               | Kranar wrote:
               | Actually the vast majority of the time it's not at all a
               | big deal. The average tenure of a CFO among the S&P 500
               | is 3.5 years. It's really not a big deal.
        
             | asdfman123 wrote:
             | Yes, this thread is obviously speculation. That's the
             | purpose of it.
        
           | Kranar wrote:
           | That seems like a contradiction. How can something always be
           | a big deal if it can mean nothing?
        
           | conductr wrote:
           | 13 years is a long tenure as CFO, on surface this means
           | nothing.
        
           | wpietri wrote:
           | Exactly. Since CFOs are in charge of the numbers and can be
           | legally on the hook for them [1], their departure always gets
           | people to perk up a bit. Even if there isn't crime involved,
           | when they guy who knows the financials best decides he'd
           | rather be elsewhere, it can be a sign that there's a coming
           | plateau or downturn.
           | 
           | That's especially interesting in the case of Tesla, whose
           | stock is down something like 40% from peak, and who is facing
           | increasingly stiff competition from basically every automaker
           | in the world.
           | 
           | [1] e.g., "fraud by negligence":
           | https://www.reuters.com/business/sec-charges-smart-window-
           | ma...
        
       | uberdru wrote:
       | Revenue recognition around FSD has been incredibly dodgy. Just
       | sayin'.
        
         | bluefishinit wrote:
         | And robotaxis never happened, and the cybertruck (hideous as it
         | is) is years behind schedule... So much of Tesla's valuation is
         | built on nothing more than empty Musk promises. The CFO seems
         | like someone who will be taking a lot of heat when reality
         | comes to roost. No wonder he's leaving.
        
       | pdq wrote:
       | Not good when a CFO abruptly resigns (or is fired). Usually
       | companies project this quarters ahead to the public, with a soft
       | notice that "XYZ will be retiring next year".
       | 
       | Yes, Kirkhorn "will continue to serve Tesla through the end of
       | the year to support a seamless transition", but this reads as a
       | rush notice.
       | 
       | His IR page is also gone:
       | 
       | https://ir.tesla.com/corporate/zachary-kirkhorn
        
         | dvt wrote:
         | > Yes, Kirkhorn "will continue to serve Tesla through the end
         | of the year to support a seamless transition", but this reads
         | as a rush notice.
         | 
         | I don't own any $TSLA (or one of their cars), but this is like
         | the _opposite_ of a rush notice. Heck, he will continue working
         | for Tesla for almost half the year. Seems like typical HN
         | "everything Elon does is bad" bandwagoning.
         | 
         | I mean, just earlier today the HP CFO resigned[1] and was
         | replaced immediately.
         | 
         | [1] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hewlett-packard-enterprise-
         | cf...
        
         | toomuchtodo wrote:
         | He has worked at Tesla for 13 years. When would be the right
         | time to go?
        
         | NotYourLawyer wrote:
         | 4 months seems like plenty of notice, and the opposite of a
         | rush.
        
         | Kranar wrote:
         | Just to put things in context, the average tenure of a CFO
         | among S&P 500 companies is 3.5 years.
         | 
         | I don't think that's a big deal, but apparently people
         | commenting here think a CFO departing is some kind of major
         | signal of something. At any rate, it's at least worth knowing
         | quantitatively that this happens once every 4 years or so.
        
       | gabrielsroka wrote:
       | https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000095017023...
        
         | zgluck wrote:
         | That was 4 days ago and this is the first we hear of it?
         | 
         | This - 9 hours ago:
         | 
         | https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-cfo-kirkhorn-steps-down...
         | 
         |  _Tesla CFO Kirkhorn steps down, replaced by chief accounting
         | officer Vaibhav Taneja_
         | 
         |  _Kirkhorn stepped down after a 13-year run at Tesla._
        
           | mtmail wrote:
           | Bottom of the 8-K document says "Date: August 7, 2023". So
           | possibly (I'm not familiar with SEC filings) filed late
           | Friday after business hours Aug/4h and then it got published
           | by SEC Monday Aug/7th at start of business day?
        
       | zgluck wrote:
       | https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1688662299857321984
       | 
       |  _I would like to thank Zach Kirkhorn for his many contributions
       | to Tesla over the course of 13 often difficult years._
       | 
       |  _Much appreciated and best wishes for the next stage of his
       | career._
        
         | LightBug1 wrote:
         | https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1688662299857321984
         | 
         | Still looks like a cesspool
        
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