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       Project: Police Flasher and 7-Segment LED Clock Through-Hole
       Soldering Kits
        
       Author : jandeboevrie
       Score  : 47 points
       Date   : 2023-08-06 10:13 UTC (12 hours ago)
        
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       | 14 wrote:
       | I wish the article had some links to these kits. I have been
       | trying to find the police flasher one and all I seem to find is
       | cheap ones with only a few leds. Anyone know where I can find the
       | police flasher? Thanks
        
         | ajsnigrutin wrote:
         | Aliexpress has them, eg.:
         | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003457635092.html
         | 
         | The pcb looks very similar, but is missing the holes to break
         | the light parts away (probably saving money on the drilling).
        
         | graton wrote:
         | I too am interested in finding some kits as I recently started
         | soldering and wanted to practice using some kits as it sounds
         | more fun than just practicing on a breadboard.
         | 
         | One site I found while watching a YouTube video was:
         | https://www.electronickits.com/ but I haven't ordered anything
         | yet and really don't know much about them besides they were
         | listed in a video...
        
           | sethhochberg wrote:
           | I don't know the vendor you linked either, but Digikey (a
           | huge electronics parts wholesaler) has an entire educational
           | kits section on their site:
           | https://www.digikey.com/en/products/filter/educational-
           | kits/...
           | 
           | Lots of microcontroller stuff in there, but also plenty of
           | simpler hardware electronics projects
        
       | wildekek wrote:
       | I love the look of 7-segment displays. If you want one that is
       | WiFi controlled via an ESP32, check out my blog post:
       | https://willem.vooijs.eu/posts/cute-astronaut3/
        
       | fit2rule wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | waltwalther wrote:
       | This brought back a great memory for me. When I was very young,
       | less than ten years old, my dad would bring home little kits like
       | this from work in a little cooler that was his lunchbox. He
       | started with the most simple ones that did not require solder,
       | and worked up to more elaborate kits. We would work on them in
       | the basement shop together. He let me mess up, and let me explore
       | and experiment. This was the early 80's, and we powered these
       | little kits with a DC power supply that he had built...from a
       | kit.
       | 
       | Great memory that I had forgotten. My dad died in February of
       | this year after a long struggle with pulmonary fibrosis. He could
       | fix anything. He could build anything. With these little kits he
       | taught me so much. Thanks for the memory!
        
         | hyperman1 wrote:
         | My 6 year old just got very interested in a very basic electric
         | kit, but he more or less exhausted its possibilities. I am
         | trying to forge a path forward, maybe with switches on a
         | breadboard or something. What are electric kits that do not
         | require solder?
        
           | waltwalther wrote:
           | The very first kit I remember was housed in a metal project
           | box about the size of a large dictionary. This was the early
           | 80's or possibly the late 70's. I was very young at the time,
           | but I still remember it fairly well.
           | 
           | The heavy box was open on the bottom, and contained a
           | homemade DC power supply (transformer, voltage rectifier,
           | etc) to power the "project area" on top of the box. The
           | project area contained 3 different-sized breadboards, maybe
           | two dozen red and green LED's, some sort of buzzer, a couple
           | of toggle switches, and a push-button switch.
           | 
           | Dad supplied me with some wire (with stripped ends). I could
           | place one end of the wire into a slot on the breadboard, and
           | connect it to another location, and then manipulate the
           | switches/buttons to either light up an LED or cause the
           | buzzer to buzz...or both. This may sound simple and boring,
           | but to me it was pretty awesome.
           | 
           | Years later, when I was in middle school, I made a homemade
           | project that would deliver a harmless, but painful electric
           | shock to my friends fingertips. It was nothing more than a
           | transformer, a push-button switch, and a battery, mounted in
           | a small box. On top of the box were two square metal pads
           | that I had cut from an old Crisco can. My victim would place
           | their index and middle fingers onto the two metal pads while
           | I pressed and released the switch.
        
         | jacquesm wrote:
         | Ugh, condolences, but what a great dad you had!
        
           | waltwalther wrote:
           | Thank you.
        
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       | de6u99er wrote:
       | I remember the time when we only had red, green, and orange LEDs.
       | Blue LEDs were a real game changer.
        
         | huhtenberg wrote:
         | https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2014/press-release...
        
       | fragmede wrote:
       | The police flasher, with a 555 timer and a decade counter to get
       | the classic police effect, is a thing of the past. These days
       | you'd put in a microcontroller and program in the desired
       | sequence. I don't know which is better, but that's how the world
       | is.
        
         | eternauta3k wrote:
         | Depends on your goal. If you really just want a blinking thing,
         | maybe buying a ready-made one is better, or alternatively
         | building the one you find easiest. If you want to make a
         | product, whatever maximizes profit is better. If you want to
         | learn about microcontrollers, build it with microcontrollers.
         | If you want to understand how 555s and RC charge/discharge
         | curves work, build it with a 555.
        
         | jacquesm wrote:
         | That requires two skillsets, the electronics part only one.
        
         | 01100011 wrote:
         | A friend asked me to make a brake and turn-signal controller
         | for a custom motorcycle. I started with 555s until I realized I
         | could get an ATTiny for less money and add more features at the
         | same time.
        
       | dragontamer wrote:
       | > AT89C2051
       | 
       | This damn chip will never die, will it?
       | 
       | Both projects seem simple enough to make with your own KiCAD
       | custom board, and with Digikey Red at just $5 for small boards,
       | and with modern miniature parts (wow, lots of big through hole
       | stuff in this kit), it's probably cheaper than you think to make
       | your own custom parts.
       | 
       | I think these days, I'd make a surface mount beginner board with
       | SOIC (relatively large surface mount) chips and maybe 0805
       | (imperial) resistors. Modern electronics are often with much
       | smaller parts like BGA or VQFN leadless and 0201 resistors.
       | 
       | But staying with larger SOIC (half the size of DIPs) is still
       | fine enough for beginners and surface mount skills probably are
       | more important today.
       | 
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       | It probably should be noted that 4-character LED modules are
       | cheap and common. This project uses 3x 2-character LED modules to
       | display "hours:minutes:seconds", but I think the typical
       | "hours:minutes" display is easier given off-the-shelf equipment.
        
         | edrxty wrote:
         | Lots of turn key manufacturers out there too. JLPCB will take
         | your proto board files and mail you the whole thing soldered
         | and ready to go in a few weeks. If you use relatively common
         | parts you won't need to solder anything at all.
        
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