[HN Gopher] Mirantis Unveils K0smotron: An Open-Source Kubernete...
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Mirantis Unveils K0smotron: An Open-Source Kubernetes Management
Project
Author : CrankyBear
Score : 29 points
Date : 2023-08-04 16:15 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| baz00 wrote:
| I manage a few rather large k8s clusters during the day and I
| don't understand what this is or why I'd need that without
| reading too much. If I read too much I switch off. This is a side
| effect of the emotional damage from managing a few rather large
| k8s clusters during the day.
| jauntywundrkind wrote:
| This is great. It's pretty easy to standup a Kubernetes cluster
| on bare metal these days. Projects like k0s are for exactly that:
| running Kube (cluster or single nodes) on bare metal. But ideally
| if you're a mid or large size entity you want to be able to stand
| up multiple clusters, for different teams or projects, to have
| some isolation. Cattle not pets, for clusters. Moving from a one
| to many mode.
|
| So k0smotron is a way to be able to stand-up/upgrade/manage many
| k0s bare-metal clusters, via Kubernetes itself. Clusters are -
| like everything in Kubernetes - just resources (defined by CRDs).
| K0smotron can go setup & manage Kubernetes clusters on the bare-
| metal nodes it's given, via typical kubectl operations.
|
| Personally I think this is really great. It's making me consider
| switching off my own Ansible-based k3s installs. I already run a
| lot of small single-node clusters here & there, and a couple very
| modest bigger clusters, and it feels like I could consolidate my
| management footprint considerably by using this fleet-of-clusters
| operators.
| blueflow wrote:
| If you need to manage your Kubernetes Clusters managing your
| Docker containers managing your applications dependencies, yo
| dawg.
| mkl95 wrote:
| Next up: An Open-Source Mirantis Management Project - built by
| management tool managers, for management tool managers
| adolph wrote:
| 6 months later: Open-Source Mirantis Management Project Pro -
| pay us for this thing we got you hooked on while it was free
|
| https://medium.com/k8slens/lens-6-released-vision-for-the-fu...
| tekla wrote:
| A K8s control plane inside K8s? There is not enough alcohol on
| this planet to support this
| baz00 wrote:
| Better fire up the crack pipe instead!
| zeropoint46 wrote:
| looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue
| nickstinemates wrote:
| The article, and the project page[1] don't do a very good job of
| explaining WHY the project exists. It definitely explains what it
| is (an operator for a control plane,) but so what?
|
| What can I do now that I could not do before? What makes it novel
| or innovative?
|
| 1: https://k0smotron.io
| otabdeveloper4 wrote:
| Sorry, I'm way past the "kubernetes fatigue" point by now.
| donutshop wrote:
| Kfatigue - A VC backed CNCF incubating project designed to
| manage your fatigue. No Ops required.
| baz00 wrote:
| Disclaimer: may require the inhalation of YAML.
| sontek wrote:
| Whats the difference between this and vcluster
| (https://github.com/loft-sh/vcluster)?
| jauntywundrkind wrote:
| Vcluster is virutalizing a single cluster, it looks like. The
| use case here is actually making many different clusters, each
| with their own dedicated hardware, I believe.
| speedgoose wrote:
| > Mirantis, the well-regarded developer-centric company
|
| {{Citation needed}}
| pengaru wrote:
| For those who've never heard of Mirantis, this might ring a
| bell:
|
| https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/13/mirantis-acquires-docker-e...
| semi-extrinsic wrote:
| I've never used Kubernetes in anger, for the stuff I do, I manage
| just fine with bare-metal hardware running services with systemd.
|
| The (IMO very funny) comments here about k8s causing emotional
| damage, human rights violations and need to take drugs have
| reassured me that I should stick to my bare-metal. It is the way.
| mardifoufs wrote:
| Kubernetes is just fine. Don't use it for your personal
| projects, or for stuff that can easily be managed with systemd
| services. For those, it's probably overkill. But k8s is not
| some horrible, soul damaging software either. It's actually
| amazing at what it does.
| baz00 wrote:
| Give it a couple more cluster upgrades worth of YAML
| wrangling and you'll turn rabid like the rest of us.
| baz00 wrote:
| That's going to leave a big hole in your CV/resume where there
| could be a CNCF word salad to make the recruitment and HR
| drones drool.
|
| They need to know if you can write a custom k8s controller in
| Clojure to generate cronjobs that run k8s jobs that call AWS
| lambada to ingest data from elastic cakehole and inject it into
| substandard-IA random availability zone iceberg storage while a
| Annoying Notification is triggered via ANS to a Rickety Queue
| Storage sent to someone via Shaky Email Service that eventually
| ends up in someone's Junk Mail folder in O365 but contains a
| link to the insecure bucket with the entire company's payroll
| data in it.
|
| Btw if anyone wants to hire me to wire stuff up like this and
| help you piss away money you don't need into Bezos' pockets,
| please get in contact.
|
| Edit: incidentally this is why I'm breakdown level done with
| all this shit and am going to do something else with my life.
| cmdrk wrote:
| Custom controllers? Deprecated and will be removed in v1.30!
| Please switch to the v1alpha1/ManagedManipulators API (which
| won't be stable until v1.35)
|
| Cronjobs? Those will be gone too in a few versions. You
| really should be keeping up with the time-based task working
| group!
|
| and personally, I think elastic cakehole is not the right
| tool for the right job. You should really switch to open
| cakehole by Amazon.
| predictabl3 wrote:
| This just seems like Gardener? https://gardener.cloud/ No
| affiliation but they built what I would've built and I've worked
| on enough Kubernetes deployers/orchestrators that it could be
| considered a Human Rights violation.
| teepo wrote:
| Multi cluster management that separates the control plane from
| the worker plane. So it's like a RYO managed K8s service. Now you
| just need to get a full time SRE team to take care of what Red
| Hat, GCP, AWS, IBM Cloud SRE teams do for you today in any of the
| managed container platforms.
| ushakov wrote:
| Sounds similiar to Karmada, which we use at EdgeNode.com
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| https://karmada.io/
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