[HN Gopher] On the link between Lyme disease and bioweapons (2019)
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On the link between Lyme disease and bioweapons (2019)
Author : johntfella
Score : 35 points
Date : 2023-08-03 06:17 UTC (16 hours ago)
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| chayesfss wrote:
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| unyttigfjelltol wrote:
| Lyme apparently has been proven to be in the wild since time
| immemorial and thus the headline is nonsense.[1]
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| [1] https://www.sciencealert.com/congress-is-investigating-
| wheth...
| dawnofdusk wrote:
| Not saying that I believe in the conspiracy theory, but can't
| the disease exist naturally while also being the subject of
| bioweapon research? The only way to know would be to figure out
| more precisely what kind of research was being done on the Lyme
| bacteria... I'm not sure if there are signatures one can look
| for which indicate that some strain is certainly a wild
| mutation and not from concerted research (similar to how
| archeologists distinguish which sharp rocks are ancient human
| tools and which ones are just coincidentally sharp rocks).
| tamimio wrote:
| >the condition was named Lyme disease. A conspiracy theory spread
| like a fever: that the researchers at Plum Island had engineered
| a new sickness, one that now afflicts more than 30,000 Americans
| per year.
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| https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2019/07/did-us-invent-lym...
| thriftwy wrote:
| I wonder if we are going to see airborne HIV eventually. Because,
| why not? It would be very reproductively succesful.
| Terr_ wrote:
| Compare: "I wonder if we are going to see jetpacks by the year
| 2000. Because, why not? They would be very economically
| successful."
|
| Everything is successful if you assume it Magically Just Works.
|
| Viruses, like any creature, have physical limits, practical
| tradeoffs, and even game-theory/ecological considerations as
| they compete against other.
| tchbnl wrote:
| Although of the two, I think I'd prefer the jetpacks.
| Terr_ wrote:
| Since humans cannot swell up to rise like balloons, we
| could dub them Human Inflato-deficiency Vehicles, thus
| creating airborne HIV at the same time.
| seeknotfind wrote:
| I read this book a few years ago and really enjoyed it. Many
| things to say but one thing, why do books like this have to
| mention JFK somewhere in there.
| ggm wrote:
| The whole point of why we talk about the grand conspiracy is
| because conspiracy nuts join the dots promiscuously.
|
| At least Robert Anton Wilson did it humorously. FNORD!
| panzagl wrote:
| Hail Eris!
| darkclouds wrote:
| I dont think conspiracy nuts need to join the dots when you
| watch this BBC documentary.
|
| It explains the paranoia of the military which unfortunately
| is not recognised in the DSM strangely, but if you spend the
| 1hr watching this, I wont spoil how the British state were
| forced to come clean about their military fubar.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Zr0IPtx80
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| I think the military do a lot more biological and chemical
| testing on the population than they care to admit, mainly
| because its their responsibility to secure the country (any
| country) which means trying to stay ahead of the curve.
|
| Just look at the RAND report on how covid nearly took out the
| US Navy! https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_
| reports/...
|
| I even got to pick a (mad) scientists brain who worked at
| Porton Down the UK military biological and chemical testing
| place, they have stuff there which makes ebola look like a
| walk in the park, without going into any more detail.
|
| Does anyone know why they used sheep in the anthrax tests?
| Its because sheep are natural carriers, and sheep shearers
| get infected quite frequently.
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