[HN Gopher] War Is a Racket
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       War Is a Racket
        
       Author : simonebrunozzi
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2023-08-01 18:42 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | focusedone wrote:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36074845
        
       | sharts wrote:
       | Yes. And we all support it because life is easier that way.
        
       | lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote:
       | Politicians hide themselves away       They only started the war
       | Why should they go out to fight?       They leave that role to
       | the poor       -- "War Pigs"
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       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc5Nk1DXyEY
        
       | 1MachineElf wrote:
       | The Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex anime touches upon
       | this theme, although from an angle more akin to the cyberpunk
       | genre versus 20th century military industrial complex.
       | 
       | SPOILER ALERT
       | 
       | The extremely skilled and elusive hacker which they're
       | investigating, the one that has been plaguing/blackmailing
       | corporations for 5 years, turns out to be _mostly_ * an illusion.
       | The corporations and ruling political party leadership worked
       | together in a scheme to create fake cyber attacks, get them
       | highly publicized, and then profit from government relief/bailout
       | money. Regular people believe someone is terrorizing the
       | country's multinational companies, when in reality, it's just a
       | racket.
       | 
       | *The legendary hacker is actually out there, but their actual
       | role in the story is somewhat of a plot twist.
        
       | syndicatedjelly wrote:
       | Hot take: there should be more VC-backed war startups. Call it
       | "wartech". We spend an epic shitton of money per second on the
       | military industrial complex, it would be nice to see a few
       | startups actually try to make things less expensive somehow.
        
       | coffeeshopgoth wrote:
       | Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #34: War is good for business.
       | 
       | Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #35: Peace is good for business.
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | Never heard of these before - they are fun :)
         | 
         | https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Ferengi_Rules_of_Acquisi...
         | 
         | wonder if there's someone somewhere who is keeper of the rules.
         | Or a council of franchise meta-rules.
        
       | mrdobilina wrote:
       | I like to think of it like "bloody construction work"
        
       | simonh wrote:
       | > The only way to smash this racket is to conscript capital and
       | industry and labour before the nation's manhood can be
       | conscripted..
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       | We do conscript capital to fund military spending, through
       | taxation. It's levied across the whole society according to
       | ability to pay. There are always arguments about who should pay
       | what, but thats what democratic politics is there to mediate.
       | 
       | Of course there is an argument that since individuals face
       | conscription into the military, so why not conscript industry?
       | But of course the US government had already laid down the legal
       | basis for this by 1935 when this book was published. In fact they
       | did so during WW2 in the form of commandeering, the power to
       | compel any producer in the country to accept war orders, along
       | with the imposition of price controls.
        
         | landemva wrote:
         | > It's levied across the whole society according to ability to
         | pay.
         | 
         | In US, sales tax is not based on ability to pay. The very rich
         | often have minimal W-2 income, so they often opt out of
         | progressive income taxes.
        
           | simonh wrote:
           | No idea, I'm a Brit so not familiar with the details of the
           | US tax system. I'm mostly talking generally about free
           | societies, as the sentiment in the book is broadly
           | applicable. There are many forms of tax. If the system is
           | unfair, sure, it should be fixed. Fundamentally though, my
           | point is that the job of commandeering capital is taxation.
        
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