[HN Gopher] Cards as Weapons (1977)
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Cards as Weapons (1977)
Author : jansan
Score : 95 points
Date : 2023-07-31 13:28 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| TylerE wrote:
| My favorite magician of all time, and it's not even close. Was
| really said to hear he passed a few years ago.
|
| He could REALLY do this, too.
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F93VCA_TCQ
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| Actual card throwing starts at about 4:30.
| dang wrote:
| Related:
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| _"Cards as Weapons" by Ricky Jay (1977)_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26106453 - Feb 2021 (2
| comments)
|
| _Cards as Weapons by Ricky Jay (1977)_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26048850 - Feb 2021 (1
| comment)
| onychomys wrote:
| I am not 100% convinced that this isn't just actual magic. The
| manipulations are pretty amazing and then at the end it's
| mindblowing.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWvRorX0KhQ
| TylerE wrote:
| Many of the methods Jay used he learned from Dai Vernon.
|
| This vid explains Vernon's signature trick.
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| https://youtu.be/PQpQwLBDQKwP
|
| One key to Jays magic (and really any good mahician) is that
| NOTHING is coincidence. Every hitch, stumble, and stutter is
| there for a reason.
| lisper wrote:
| The card throwing is just a skill, there is no trickery
| involved. But what is shown in this video is magic facilitated
| by extreme skill (as opposed to, say, a gimmicked deck).
| TylerE wrote:
| He did use gimmicks sometimes, albeit it usually a set deck
| that he then pretends to false shuffle.
| lisper wrote:
| That's not a gimmick. False shuffles are a skill.
| TylerE wrote:
| He used marked cards and other speciality decks like
| stripper decks on occasion.
| lisper wrote:
| Sure, every magician does that at one time or another.
| But that's not what he's doing in this video.
| jansan wrote:
| When I was into card magic a few years ago this move by Lennard
| Green was the one that impressed me most:
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| https://youtu.be/KnSGHHeFxa0?t=33
|
| Also, at the end of the video his laser routine is really nice.
| ctrlp wrote:
| Saw Ricky Jay 3 times in the 52 Assistants era in very intimate
| theaters and he was just amazing.
| bragr wrote:
| I was not expecting a fully nude woman on pages 40-43. Perhaps
| could use a NSFW flag.
| ASalazarMX wrote:
| That very pleasant woman, both topless and fully naked later,
| also took me by surprise. No mention if her nakedness is part
| of the flick/attack position. I just browsed the book, but
| there's also a foot-card-flicking picture, and some ladies
| operating a man with a card.
|
| I don't have time to read it right now, but surely will later,
| seems like a fun weekend book.
| nutate wrote:
| As a kid I had access to that book and I got to be a pretty
| wicked card thrower. Haven't tried it in a while.
| ASalazarMX wrote:
| Did your parents know about the pretty topless/naked lady in
| some of the pictures?
| NoMoreNicksLeft wrote:
| If you still have a copy, a coworker from a previous job said
| that it's worth quite a bit (hundreds, apparently).
| TylerE wrote:
| Only the hard cover. Paperback is also valuable, but only
| about 15% of the hardcover.
| jansan wrote:
| Please forgive me for digging this up every other year, but I
| think this is such a wonderful tongue in cheek resource for a
| wonderfully weird topic.
|
| Also, be warned that book pages 33 and 34 may be NSFW in some
| regions on this planet ;)
| klyrs wrote:
| Page 56 is where it gets really steamy
| cdchn wrote:
| I was just skimming through before even reading the comments
| and I hit what you were talking about on page 42 and thought
| "Wait hold up.."
| ASalazarMX wrote:
| The clothes obscured the careful position of the arms, they
| were removed for pedagogic reasons.
| progre wrote:
| Thank you for the, uh... Warning.
| supportengineer wrote:
| Lots of references to famous contemporaries. Very silly book! It
| certainly keeps you turning the pages.
| agumonkey wrote:
| I don't know about you guys, but I often think magician are great
| computer scientists.. pre-planning order and configurations to
| obtain a known result..
| GoofballJones wrote:
| The late, great Ricky Jay was one of the very best card magicians
| who ever lived...plus a fantastic magic historian.
| gumby wrote:
| If you don't know who Ricky Jay was, this is a nice introduction.
| readingnews wrote:
| I note that on the books title, it says he is the author of this
| book:
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| https://archive.org/details/learnedpigsfirep0000unse
|
| Which has an amazing title.
| 0x0203 wrote:
| It's also an amazing book. In addition to being an incredible
| magician and entertainer, Ricky Jay was also a wealth of
| knowledge on the history of magic and all things related. The
| referenced "Learned Pigs and Fireproof Women" is just
| scratching the surface of the subject.
| empath-nirvana wrote:
| For such an obscurantist profession, the quality of technical
| writing in books by magicians is so incredibly consistent.
|
| I'm going to recommend another really excellent, long out of
| print book by a famous magician:
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| https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Derren%20Brown%20-%20Pure%2...
|
| It's an absolute gold mine of tips on performance and full of
| detailed technical explanations of how he did some of his most
| famous illusions. (and the answer is not NLP or subliminal
| suggestion or anything he talks about in his patter, most of the
| time).
| jdietrich wrote:
| I'd like to recommend two of Darwin Ortiz's books, _Strong
| Magic_ and _Designing Miracles_. They 're high-level
| theoretical texts on the perceptual and cognitive basis of
| illusion and I've found them to have a great deal of
| applicability to UI/UX design.
| m3kw9 wrote:
| Well don't bring a deck of cards to a fist fight
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