[HN Gopher] Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected w...
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       Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected with HIV and
       herpes in Cali
        
       Author : FeaturelessBug
       Score  : 51 points
       Date   : 2023-07-30 17:29 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.insider.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.insider.com)
        
       | AequitasOmnibus wrote:
       | > Wang Zhaolin, a representative of the company operating the
       | lab, Prestige Biotech, told investigators that the mice inside
       | the warehouse had been genetically engineered to catch and spread
       | the COVID-19 virus, according to The San Joaquin Valley Sun.
       | 
       | This fact alone shocks the conscience. Criminal charges should
       | fly swift and fierce against everyone involved in this illegal
       | operation.
       | 
       | What's horrifying is that this biolab was found on a fluke. How
       | many more covert biolabs is China operating in secret in the
       | U.S.?
        
         | whimsicalism wrote:
         | > How many more covert biolabs is China operating in secret in
         | the U.S.?
         | 
         | Is the company even Chinese?
        
           | BugsJustFindMe wrote:
           | > _Is the company even Chinese?_
           | 
           | Seems like yes but with a shady trail of dark corners.
           | 
           | > _Yao told officials that Prestige BioTech moved assets
           | belonging to a defunct company, Universal Meditech Inc., to
           | the Reedley warehouse from Fresno after UMI went under.
           | Prestige Biotech was a creditor to UMI and identified as its
           | successor, according to court documents._
           | 
           | > _Officials were unable to get any California-based address
           | for either company except for the previous Fresno location
           | from which UMI had been evicted._
           | 
           | > _" The other addresses provided for identified authorized
           | agents were either empty offices or addresses in China that
           | could not be verified," court documents said._
        
         | tomjen3 wrote:
         | I really, really hope it is just some corrupt or insane person,
         | because if this is done with the blessing of the Chinese state
         | to spread Covid in the US, thats bioterroism and a clear act of
         | war.
         | 
         | Even if it is only done to research Covid, it would put US
         | lives at stake and should result in something drastic.
        
         | topato wrote:
         | Whenever I see a company using Prestige in their name, I can't
         | help but think back to the hit Hollywood movie 'Stepbrothers',
         | and the titular brothers' fictional company, Prestige Worldwide
        
       | rolandog wrote:
       | To quote Steve Gibson: "What could possibly go wrong?"
        
       | whimsicalism wrote:
       | Does anyone have reporting from a higher quality source?
        
         | DANmode wrote:
         | Previously on HN: CDC detects coronavirus, HIV, hepatitis and
         | herpes at unlicensed California lab
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36921530
         | https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresn...
        
           | tinus_hn wrote:
           | There the story is being put down because it kind of sounds
           | like the lab leak theory so obviously it can't be true. The
           | cognitive dissonance is strong.
        
             | newaccount74 wrote:
             | It's being put down because it does not sound like the lab
             | leak theory. It just sounds like a sloppy lab.
             | 
             | Where do you think all those cheap covid tests came from?
             | I'd bet a lot of them came from grey area labs that
             | probably didn't follow regulations too closely. Considering
             | how imprecise they were...
        
       | andrewstuart wrote:
       | All the transmissibility of herpes with the damage of HIV.
       | 
       | Of course, of course.
       | 
       | Totally safe of course. Zero chance of lab escape. I do hear
       | there are wet markets nearby though.....
        
         | treeman79 wrote:
         | Good thing the current president has received millions from
         | China. That'll encourage him to get right on it! Certainly not
         | ignore the issue completely.
        
       | brucethemoose2 wrote:
       | Again, what is the motive? Where is the money coming from?
       | 
       | Secret COVID HIV rats is a Bond villian thing, not something
       | actual criminals do to make a buck.
        
         | sct202 wrote:
         | Universal Meditech Inc one of the companies referenced made
         | covid rapid tests, so the most charitable take on this is it
         | was a sloppily run lab trying to make money on covid tests.
         | There's a recall notice the FDA issued, so they did make
         | something. https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-
         | withdrawals-safety...
        
         | tyingq wrote:
         | I'm sure there are more reasons, but modified herpes and HIV
         | have both been used as experimental cancer treatments.
         | 
         | Edit: It appears they made a variety of in-vitro tests during
         | their peak operating period. For diseases, pregnancy, drugs,
         | etc. So probably more about "criminally sloppy lab" than any
         | more movie-worthy motive.
         | 
         | An old wayback grab of their product page:
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20190731163304/http://universal-...
        
       | seatac76 wrote:
       | This is the stuff of horror movies, so much can go wrong. How are
       | they even able to acquire such material without some oversight?
        
       | upsidesinclude wrote:
       | This should be really bigger news.
       | 
       | Seperate news reports include claims that the company was
       | "developing COVID19 tests" among other things. This could very
       | well have been funded through pandemic relief grants.
       | 
       | The owners of the building claim no knowledge of the goings on
       | there.
       | 
       | Clearly they were engaged in some nefarious work with extremely
       | minimal safety protocol.
        
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