[HN Gopher] Oregon Legalizes Self-Gas Pumping
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       Oregon Legalizes Self-Gas Pumping
        
       Author : josh_carterPDX
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2023-07-28 20:49 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | Semaphor wrote:
       | For a confused German where everyone pumps their own gas: Why was
       | this a law in the first place? Are there similar laws in other
       | states?
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       | Edit: Thanks everyone, that's really interesting. My only
       | experience with attendants is in South Africa where you don't
       | need a law, because the gas station doesn't trust the customers,
       | and the customers don't want to risk opening their doors and get
       | mugged ;)
        
         | mhink wrote:
         | It's an old law from back in the 50s. It kinda stuck around
         | because no politician wanted to be the one suggesting a
         | legislative change that would instantly cause a bunch of gas
         | station attendants to lose their job. I guess. Trust me,
         | everyone else in the United States thought it was odd as well!
         | 
         | Funny story, though: the first time I drove down to Portland
         | and stopped for gas just before the state border, there was a
         | woman at the pump next to me with a very concerned look on her
         | face. As I was getting gas for my own car, she turns to me and
         | (slightly embarrassed) asks if I can show her how the pumps
         | work. Of course, I did, but it definitely threw me for a loop
         | until I remembered that law existed.
        
           | devilbunny wrote:
           | I had to show a college friend from New Jersey how to pump
           | gas. We were seniors.
           | 
           | I don't know why her parents had never taught her; they _had_
           | taken out-of-state trips that would have offered the chance.
        
         | jmartin2683 wrote:
         | Unions (so, the mafia).
        
         | JohnFen wrote:
         | New Jersey is the only other state that prohibits it, I think.
         | Originally (early 20th century), it was a safety thing. But in
         | Oregon, anyway, it became a cultural thing over time.
         | 
         | Right now, a number of my Oregonian friends are upset that
         | they've legalized it. Mostly because it's a loss of a cultural
         | touchpoint, but also because they don't want to have to get out
         | of their car in cold Oregon rain to pump their own gas.
        
           | sublinear wrote:
           | I have a dumb sounding question, but I don't know anything
           | about Oregon... or really anything.
           | 
           | Do you think full service gas stations positively affected
           | the economy via tourism? I ask because I've never experienced
           | one and if one wasn't too far out of my way on a road trip I
           | might have checked it out and the surrounding area.
        
             | OkayPhysicist wrote:
             | I can confidently say no. US states, especially those in
             | the West, are big and spread out. With few exceptions, you
             | can't make minor detours to visit a state. Basically, if
             | you were driving through Oregon, you didn't have any other
             | option but to drive through Oregon, and if you're driving
             | through Oregon, you're almost certainly going to have to
             | stop for gas, because one tank probably won't get you
             | across the state.
        
             | wkdneidbwf wrote:
             | oregonian here.
             | 
             | full service in this context just means some gruff
             | gentleman pumps your gas. getting your windows washed or
             | oil checked is all but non-existent. so no, i don't think
             | there is any appeal for tourists. it's an inferior
             | experience.
             | 
             | gas stations are extremely understaffed these days, to the
             | point where it's rare at some stations for all the pumps to
             | even be open. cars queue at popular stations while two
             | employees man a dozen pumps. it can be agonizingly slow and
             | frustrating.
             | 
             | i've read and heard a lot of pushback on self serve and i
             | don't get it. iirc stations are still required to offer
             | full service on a portion of the pumps, so folks who don't
             | want to pump still won't have to.
             | 
             | edit: all of this is of course my anecdotal experience from
             | the willamette valley area.
        
               | NobodyNada wrote:
               | This is exactly my experience too. My usual gas station
               | experience involves waiting in a long line (they've only
               | got one guy working the pumps, so only 2 or 3 pumps are
               | open); pulling up to a pump; waiting a while for the
               | attendant to get to me; handing him my credit card and
               | yelling my rewards phone number at him (my gas tank is on
               | the passenger side, making this annoying and error-
               | prone); waiting briefly for the actual pumping; and then
               | waiting for the guy to come back around to disconnect the
               | hose.
               | 
               | It's 5-10 minutes of waiting on a good day, or upwards of
               | 20 minutes on a bad day, for 60 seconds of pumping gas.
               | All the while most of the pumps are sitting there unused.
        
           | somerandomqaguy wrote:
           | Are gas stations in Jersey not normally covered?
        
         | mhgfngdbdf wrote:
         | it's a law that was pushed by the industry to prevent
         | eliminating jobs under the guise of safety issues.
         | 
         | new jersey is the only other state with such a law (and it's
         | even more restrictive than the oregon law was)
        
           | ksaj wrote:
           | As a motorcyclist, this would drive me nuts. I only let an
           | attendant do the job once, and they dribbled all over my
           | tank. How is it that I, a non-attendant, pretty much never
           | spray or spill all over my tank, but the paid experts do?
           | 
           | I get the same feedback when mentioning this to other bikers.
        
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