[HN Gopher] Namibian fairy circle debate rages on: Sand termites...
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       Namibian fairy circle debate rages on: Sand termites or Turing
       mechanism?
        
       Author : thunderbong
       Score  : 36 points
       Date   : 2023-07-27 19:53 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
        
       | Zanni wrote:
       | Turing "mechanism" is a bit misleading, but I'm fascinated to
       | learn about Turing _patterns_. [0] I 'm not swayed by either side
       | of the debate (and don't really care), but learning about Turing
       | patterns was worth the read.
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       | [0] https://www.chemistryworld.com/features/turing-
       | patterns/4991...
        
         | digging wrote:
         | I was pretty confused here. The article should have explained
         | the meaning of Turing patterns sooner. It's a much drier (heh)
         | article than expected without the premise of unconscious
         | biological systems performing computations in sand.
        
       | zabzonk wrote:
       | not obvious to me from the ars article, but the circles are
       | 
       | > 2 and 12 metres (7 and 39 ft) in diameter
       | 
       | according to WP
        
       | ahmedfromtunis wrote:
       | This isn't mentioned in the article (or I hope I didn't miss it)
       | but did they try to dig into the patches to check if there are
       | termites or not? They said they measured moisture at different
       | levels beneath the surface, but that can be done without actually
       | digging.
        
         | Loughla wrote:
         | Right? Isn't it super simple to see if there are termites
         | there? I was lost about that.
        
         | baerrie wrote:
         | The article says that the damage to the grass roots is hard to
         | discern and requires magnification. Also, the termites
         | apparently are hard to observe but have been found
        
       | permo-w wrote:
       | impressively attention-grabbing headline aside, could they not
       | both the true? a Turing mechanism where termites are the
       | "activator chemical"
        
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