[HN Gopher] Sam Altman demands regulation in effort to limit com...
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       Sam Altman demands regulation in effort to limit competition
        
       Author : holografix
       Score  : 43 points
       Date   : 2023-07-24 22:14 UTC (48 minutes ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theatlantic.com)
        
       | 0xbadc0de5 wrote:
       | Does Sam Altman Know What He's Creating?
       | 
       | Regulatory capture?
       | 
       | Yes. Yes he does.
        
       | uLogMicheal wrote:
       | Inb4 crazy identity requirements on LLM interactions that only
       | Worldcoin can solve. Create problem, pay the system to be the
       | solution.
        
       | version_five wrote:
       | You have to change the title (currently "Sam Altman demands
       | regulation in effort to limit competition")
       | 
       | I strongly agree with that sentence, but it's not the title of
       | the article, it's clickbait
        
         | adventured wrote:
         | Definitely needs changed. The actual title "Does Sam Altman
         | Know What He's Creating?" is excellent as is.
        
       | rsweeney21 wrote:
       | Complaining about a CEO seeking regulatory capture seems like
       | complaining about a lion eating a gazelle. It's the natural order
       | of things in American corporations.
       | 
       | But like a lion eating a gazelle, it still turns my stomach to
       | watch.
        
         | garbanz0 wrote:
         | It's completely appropriate to complain about openai doing this
         | because of its unique structure as a temporarily profit driven
         | nonprofit
        
       | femiagbabiaka wrote:
       | Feels like U.S. regulators and the justice system in general are
       | completely ineffective when it comes to checking business so
       | it'll probably be fine either way. Uber, Tesla, there are many
       | more examples of regulation being ultimately toothless.
        
       | CharlesW wrote:
       | Archive: https://archive.is/KvR5N
        
       | gumballindie wrote:
       | > But the public wouldn't have been able to prepare for the shock
       | waves that followed
       | 
       | Yup, no one was prepared for this level of fud and spam. OpenAI
       | is simply an annoyance.
        
       | A_D_E_P_T wrote:
       | > Altman doesn't know how powerful AI will become, or what its
       | ascendance will mean for the average person, or whether it will
       | put humanity at risk.
       | 
       | In all seriousness, if practical AI development is potentially an
       | extinction-level risk, it should simply cease. It may be a
       | technology that mankind is not ready for, not equipped to handle.
       | In this case, those who recklessly seek to commercialize it are,
       | in a very real sense, privatizing profits and socializing losses.
       | ("Heads, I become as rich as Croesus. Tails, we all die -- or, at
       | the very least, we all experience unprecedented social
       | upheaval.")
        
         | kmeisthax wrote:
         | Heads and tails sound like the exact same scenario.
        
         | amelius wrote:
         | Otoh, if we don't create it, some nation state actor will.
        
           | haswell wrote:
           | It would require a military threat to shut this down
           | globally, i.e. willingness to go to war to prevent further
           | development.
           | 
           | Which is not necessarily a deterrent anyway.
        
           | entropicdrifter wrote:
           | Just like with nukes, it's an international 200+ actor
           | version of the prisoner's dilemma
        
           | adventured wrote:
           | They're going to anyway. And of course it won't just be
           | nation state actors. It'll be criminal organizations out of
           | Russia, or terrorist organizations, or some clandestine team
           | inside a three letter US agency.
           | 
           | They're proliferating rapidly. The hardware will keep getting
           | better. A lot more people will learn how to build them, in a
           | lot of different locations around the globe. The genie is
           | never going back into the bottle.
           | 
           | There will be extremely nefarious, highly potent, alt LLMs
           | created, and soon. Focused on variations of social
           | engineering. They will cause tens of billions of dollars in
           | damages globally and lead to tight regulations on the
           | proliferation of LLMs. Most likely all LLMs or the equivalent
           | will have to be registered with a host nation and include
           | details about its capabilities.
        
         | mrcheesebreeze wrote:
         | [dead]
        
       | mellosouls wrote:
       | Actual title:
       | 
       | "Does Sam Altman know what he's creating?"
       | 
       | Please don't editorialise.
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
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