[HN Gopher] Data breach exposes personal information of 4k Roblo...
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Data breach exposes personal information of 4k Roblox developers
Author : amalinovic
Score : 93 points
Date : 2023-07-21 11:53 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| dbg31415 wrote:
| It's a pretty sketchy company.
|
| Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers
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| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ
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| Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.
|
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY
| wnevets wrote:
| Roblox games have some of the worst microtransaction bullshit
| I've seen in very long time. Not just what is being sold but
| how they're targeting kids to pay for them.
| _a9 wrote:
| Controversial Youtuber Ruben Sim also has some (also
| controversial) vids showcasing the bad stuff that happens on
| Roblox (Weird developers, moderators ignoring reports,
| weird/inappropriate groups and items not being removed, etc)
| [0-2]
|
| This is the same person that was sued by Roblox in 2021[3] but
| that doesn't nullify the content he has been showing about all
| the shady shit that Roblox does.
|
| [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STS1horM6JY
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| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLF6YUdt8aE
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| [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bUWnxP_YAw
|
| [3] SomeOrdinaryGamers deep dive into the lawsuit:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dlxp-X7O54
|
| [-] https://www.youtube.com/@RubenSim/videos
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| charcircuit wrote:
| I dislike this video as its such an old person take of the
| situation. No one is forcing people to develop for their
| platform. Roblox makes tools to make developing easy and
| provide a platform to get an audience. Just because young
| people want to use it that doesn't make them a sketchy company.
| Game development is not always going to be profitable, and like
| many other art forms people create games because they want to
| bring something from their mind into the world. Thinking that
| kids shouldn't be allowed to do creative things because it
| isn't profitable for them is just an overly negative viewpoint.
|
| If these developers think its easier to release a game on a
| mobile app store and gain an audience nothing is realistically
| stopping them.
| mey wrote:
| The issue the video is presenting is that they are predatory
| to kids. Kids don't always have the skills/knowledge yet to
| know how they are being exploited, which is what these videos
| are discussing.
|
| There are 100s of ways to be creative in game development
| outside of roblox that are approachable these days. Itch.io
| is a simple/open publishing platform. There are plenty of
| free/cheap game engines. Tons of tutorials on youtube for
| those platforms.
|
| Those other systems aren't by default setup to lie that you
| will be the next rockstar developer, just as long as you pump
| more money into our closed ecosystem for more prominent
| placement on this front page, while skimming significant rev
| shares off the top that is opaque.
|
| If roblox is your spark that gets you to think about what is
| possible, awesome, but those videos describe a corporate
| structure that uses fake currency, a closed ecosystem, and
| predatory tactics, to take your talent and make it their
| content.
| charcircuit wrote:
| >There are 100s of ways to be creative in game development
| outside of roblox that are approachable these days
|
| And not everyone uses everything. As long as a tool is not
| terrible it will have some amount of market share. I am not
| denying there are alternatives, but there is going to be a
| percentage of people who want what Roblox is offering
| compared to itch.io.
|
| >Those other systems aren't by default setup to lie that
| you will be the next rockstar developer
|
| That sounds like marketing talk. Most businesses will try
| and oversell what their tools will let you do. As shown in
| the video people are realistic that there is a small number
| of people who will become successful.
|
| >just as long as you pump more money into our closed
| ecosystem for more prominent placement on this front page
|
| Adevertising campaigns for games are not Roblox specific at
| all.
|
| >while skimming significant rev shares off the top that is
| opaque.
|
| Most platforms have rev share. Again if you make an iphone
| app you will similarly be rev sharing with apple.
|
| >to take your talent and make it their content.
|
| It's beneficial for both parties. If it's not developers
| would not invest time and money into making things for the
| platform. It just business like everywhere else.
| berkle4455 wrote:
| I sure wish I had the opportunity to be "exploited" in game
| development when I was a teenager.
| [deleted]
| voytec wrote:
| > "Roblox is aware of a third-party security issue where there
| were indications of unauthorized access to limited personal
| information of a subset of our creator community,"
|
| Garbage corpospeech. Who chose the 3rd party provider? Who gave
| the provider personal data of Roblox "creator community"? Also -
| who was hiding the incident for 2 years?
| [deleted]
| berkle4455 wrote:
| It was whatever event registration platform they used for those
| 4 years. I imagine we'll see some other leaks and not just
| Roblox.
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| Yikes, I wonder how many of them are minors.
| add-sub-mul-div wrote:
| [flagged]
| bigyikes wrote:
| Roblox is a powerful game engine and monetization engine, and
| attracts many adults for those reasons.
| dave84 wrote:
| > Developers
| lolpython wrote:
| The majority of the independent developers on the platform
| are adults. Recall that creators can make money on Roblox.
|
| > The majority of Roblox's creators are now over 18, and the
| company thinks they are ready to build more mature worlds on
| the platform.
|
| https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/20/23767154/roblox-adult-
| the...
| lesuorac wrote:
| Roblox is 17 years old now, so if you joined at 13 years old
| half-way into it's lifespan you're over 18 now.
|
| Its weird how time flies and I also wonder what the next
| sandbox game kids these days will get into.
| bena wrote:
| And after analyzing the data, they've found that the average
| Roblox developer is a married woman in her mid 30s. Weird.
|
| Edit: Seriously though, this seems like a bigger deal because it
| seems as if Roblox kind of just has a big ol bucket of data.
| Purchasing from the Roblox store is no different than being a
| Roblox developer from the standpoint of the data.
| [deleted]
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