[HN Gopher] Food companies 'sweetened the world' and increased t...
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Food companies 'sweetened the world' and increased the risk of
disease
Author : YeGoblynQueenne
Score : 67 points
Date : 2023-07-14 20:51 UTC (2 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.theguardian.com)
| omginternets wrote:
| They're now "vegetizing" the world with "plant-based" (read:
| highly processed) products and lab-grown meats (ditto).
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| The sooner we realize that food industry are engaged in
| capitalism and not public health, nor ecology, the better. What
| the food industry pushes is best read through the lens of
| patentable intellectual property and market disruption in an
| economic sector with razor-thin margins. I would encourage all
| conscientious people not to be their useful idiots.
| jjtheblunt wrote:
| Wouldn't eating a salad of all vegetables be "plant-based"? Are
| you saying they use that phrase misleadingly too?
| tester13894059 wrote:
| I think that's the misunderstanding here. Things like Beyond
| Meat aren't really any better for you than real meat. It's
| just another push from the capital class to co-opt the
| medical profession's message that we should all be eating
| less meat. The ingredients, textured vegetable protein and
| highly processed lentils, have had almost all of the really
| healthy stuff removed from them and they serve only as a
| substrate for particular flavors that mimic meat.
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| Insofar as it isn't recognizably an ingredient that is picked
| from a field and marketed as a plant or animal part, it's
| part of what's causing all of us to be really unhealthy in
| the US.
| dkdbejwi383 wrote:
| That's fair enough, but it still has a far lower impact on
| the planet, for those times when someone just really wants
| a burger.
| armatav wrote:
| This is true - everything along the lines of plant based food
| has an underlying capital cost transformation driving it, not a
| cultural or environmental basis.
|
| That's why they need to convince/mandate people to eat it; it
| tastes worse and is worse for you.
| helph67 wrote:
| Some here may be concerned enough to consider this article
| https://www.elle.com/beauty/makeup-skin-care/tips/a2471/suga...
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| The proteins in skin most prone to glycation are the same ones
| that make a youthful complexion so plump and springy--collagen
| and elastin. When those proteins hook up with renegade sugars,
| they become discolored, weak, and less supple; this shows up on
| the skin's surface as wrinkles, sagginess, and a loss of
| radiance.
| tayo42 wrote:
| Seems like a headline that's going to get people riled up, while
| its discussing misleading and lies in marketing of food towards
| uneducated people in developing parts of India.
|
| tough country to deal with problems in, idk how you reach
| everyone to educate them.
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| Plenty of related discussion over here:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36728033
| grecy wrote:
| There is a really, really easy way to avoid all of this.
|
| In the supermarket, only buy things that have one ingredient.
| Only eat and drink things that have one ingredient.
|
| As Michael Pollan says: "Eat FOOD, mostly greens, not too much."
| bettercallsalad wrote:
| Let's not give FDA, NIH and other standard and quality control
| monitoring agencies pass while food conpanies did this. They also
| purposely pushed "fat is bad" while the whole diet chart with the
| carb/milk and dairy was plain misleading. And they knew they were
| lying, most of their propositions were pushed by one guys
| research. And of course big pharma always sponsored and benefited
| these types of research.
| api wrote:
| When I see populist cranks getting traction in the culture and
| in politics, I find myself being as angry at the establishment
| for this as I am at the cranks or perhaps even more.
|
| I feel like our main establishment entities like the FDA, NIH,
| major universities, pharma companies, etc. still aren't willing
| to take any responsibility for why people don't trust them
| anymore.
|
| Cranks are filling the vacuum, but the cranks didn't create the
| vacuum.
| adam_arthur wrote:
| Regulation through voluntary goodwill never works in aggregate.
| Blaming actors rather than regulators will always be futile in
| the end as players in a system will almost always trend towards
| self interest in the long run, as has been proven time and time
| again
|
| Of course many would argue there's no need to regulate at all,
| and that's a fair position to hold too.
|
| There's nothing inherently wrong with providing products that
| offer a tradeoff between health and enjoyment. As long as
| consumers are aware of the longer term costs
| mahmoudhossam wrote:
| Regulatory capture prevents regulators from doing their jobs,
| and I'm not sure any amount of regulator blaming will change
| that.
|
| Naming and shaming companies, however, can make them change
| their strategy.
| 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
| In a competitive system is it selfishness or survival?
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