[HN Gopher] The subtle magic of tsnet
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       The subtle magic of tsnet
        
       Author : xena
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2023-07-11 12:01 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | tentacleuno wrote:
       | I love Tailscale posts, but I don't feel like the slide -> blog
       | conversion has gone very well here. It reads more like a Twitter
       | thread. In one of the slides, they even admit the imagery is
       | sloppy, but do nothing to supplement it with a better one.
        
         | globalreset wrote:
         | Love both Tailscale and Xe's writing as well, and indeed, all
         | these (rather irrelevant) images are just breaking the flow of
         | reading/skimming the content. I guess I'll just watch the video
         | instead.
        
         | Modified3019 wrote:
         | Yeah, they definitely need to spend 5 minutes to remove the
         | spurious slides that don't actually provide any information.
        
           | xena wrote:
           | This took me more than 5 minutes, but do you mean something
           | like this? https://tailscale-dev-git-xe-no-fun-allowed-
           | tailscale.vercel...
        
             | dang wrote:
             | Thanks! I've pinned that link to the top of the thread
             | along with a request to stop being distracted by formatting
             | now.
        
             | plibither8 wrote:
             | Yes! This is way more readable, thank you.
        
               | xena wrote:
               | The fix is rolling out shortly.
        
       | jrm4 wrote:
       | Could be I'm old, but I read the beginning, recognized the
       | problem like YES that is hard... and then ended up reading about
       | solutions that just made it all even more complicated?
        
       | dang wrote:
       | OP kindly made a streamlined version of same post for those who
       | prefer: https://tailscale-dev-git-xe-no-fun-allowed-
       | tailscale.vercel....
       | 
       | All: please focus on the content now. (See
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html re " _tangential
       | annoyances--e.g. article or website formats [etc.]._ ")
       | 
       | Edit: looks like that's now the version at the official URL so I
       | will cause this comment to plummet to the depths.
        
       | flumpcakes wrote:
       | An interesting article overall, but I think authenticating a user
       | based on their IP address is probably the worst security advice
       | I've seen. It's probably ripe for attack with ARP poisoning, IP
       | spoofing, etc.
        
         | bradfitz wrote:
         | (I work at Tailscale)
         | 
         | It only authenticates it _after_ all the WireGuard bits. So
         | it's not really auth by IP address, but auth by wireguard key
         | identity, from which we know your identity. There's no IP
         | spoofing possible. And ARP isn't even in the picture for an L3
         | protocol.
        
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       | vorpalhex wrote:
       | I see a lot of mention of folks of using tailscale for their
       | friend group to access stuff.. but the free plan seems to max out
       | at 3 users, with an exception for foss projects.
       | 
       | What am I missing? How do I use tailscale for my 10ish friends
       | and me to play minecraft without paying hundreds a year?
        
         | kevinkeller wrote:
         | Have each person create their own account, and share nodes:
         | https://tailscale.com/kb/1084/sharing/
        
         | xena wrote:
         | Tailscalar/talk author here. Set up a GitHub org. That has a 25
         | user limit for free. That's what my husband and I use (our
         | tailnet predates the new free plan details here:
         | https://tailscale.com/blog/pricing-v3/).
        
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