[HN Gopher] Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from yo...
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       Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone
        
       Author : barbazoo
       Score  : 116 points
       Date   : 2023-07-10 21:28 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | outcoldman wrote:
       | I am pretty happy with Synology and Photo backup.
        
       | pj_mukh wrote:
       | Hate to be that guy. But one final feature that Google photos
       | has:
       | 
       | Auto share photos of a certain face to an album that is shared
       | with a group. Group is notified when new photos are added.
       | 
       | This is CLUTCH for new parents.
       | 
       | That being said, this is incredible and I'm definitely moving
       | over the first chance I get.
        
       | jrussino wrote:
       | I've been looking for something like this.
       | 
       | My wife and I each have a separate Apple Photos library. I'd love
       | it if we could have a combined backup solution.
       | 
       | Could we keep using Photos and back up to this, or would it be
       | better to ditch Photos and just switch over?
        
         | wunderland wrote:
         | Apple Photos actually supports a shared library now:
         | https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213248
        
       | davidklemke wrote:
       | I like the look of this. I'm currently using PhotoPrism[1] and
       | PhotoSync[2] as a combo to get the same thing and whilst it works
       | fine I've always thought a single app would be far better placed.
       | 
       | Looks relatively straightforward to get running, pretty much
       | inline with what I had to do in order to get PhotoPrism running
       | in the first place. Only thing I couldn't see anything about was
       | hardware acceleration, do leverage any of the Intel instructions
       | (VAAPI) for transcoding? That's a paid feature on PhotoPrism and
       | something that's sorely needed. CPU bound transcoding is
       | terrible!
       | 
       | Think I'll put this on the TODO list for the weekend!
       | 
       | [1]https://www.photoprism.app/ [2]https://www.photosync-
       | app.com/home
        
       | djbusby wrote:
       | How do my photos get onto this system? I don't see it from the
       | docs.
        
         | Saris wrote:
         | In addition to the mobile app which works like google photos
         | and backs up photos you take automatically, you can also:
         | 
         | - Upload via the webUI
         | 
         | - Import a folder of photos on the host (copies photos to the
         | Immich directory)
         | 
         | - Add a folder of photos on the host (leaves photos in place)
        
           | djbusby wrote:
           | I didn't see the PlayStore link from their site. I do find it
           | when searching manually.
        
       | charles_f wrote:
       | This looks like something that I might use, but
       | 
       | > Expect bugs and breaking changes.
       | 
       | I get it's the pretty normal to go through fixing bugs, but for a
       | backup solution the core of it should be stable or I would not
       | use it
        
         | gobip wrote:
         | Try it. Adopt it. :)
         | 
         | Just a few weeks ago, facial recognition was added and that was
         | it for me. I finally made the switch from Google Photos and
         | iCloud to immich. It's your self-hosted google photos
         | alternative, with image recognition, a map, sharing folders
         | publicly, or with other users on your server.
         | 
         | Some parts will be buggy though, like face detection, or
         | memories. But the whole "backup & sync" part is very reliable,
         | I've never had any issues.
        
           | vasac wrote:
           | > Some parts will be buggy though, like face detection, or
           | memories.
           | 
           | Frankly, I have had issues with Google Photos already. For
           | me, it simply stopped recognizing faces since last October. I
           | tried disabling and then enabling face recognition multiple
           | times, but to no avail. It starts recognition from scratch,
           | but only for photos before October. Writing to the support
           | didn't help (although I didn't expect it to anyway), so
           | alternatives like this one are becoming more and more
           | tempting.
           | 
           | I'm already self-hosting a bunch of things, but facial
           | recognition (when it was working) was much better in Google
           | Photos and a major reason why I'm paying for additional
           | storage.
        
           | cvwright wrote:
           | I'm working on building something similar.
           | 
           | From what I can tell, Immich, Ente, and PhotoPrism are the
           | best of the batch when it comes to open source photo storage
           | and management. They are all good, but it depends on what
           | you're looking for.
           | 
           | Personally, I want: E2E encryption, on-device face
           | recognition, and the ability to self-host as well as a paid
           | option for people who don't want to manage their own server.
           | The existing options each hit about 90% of that, but it's a
           | different 90% for each one.
        
             | wyager wrote:
             | iCloud photos has all of that except the self-host option.
             | You may be aware - just saying as I didn't see it on your
             | list, and the E2EE is somewhat new.
        
             | TkTech wrote:
             | Photoprism had the critical flaw of being single user last
             | time I tried it, making it neat but a complete non starter
             | for someone with a family larger than 1.
        
       | ktm5j wrote:
       | I really like Seafile for this functionality. I host my own
       | server using podman to run their docker container and it works
       | super well. Their app has the ability to back up any
       | photos/videos taken on your phone, in addition to other things it
       | can do. Highly recommend!
        
       | pickingdinner wrote:
       | Trying to get off dropbox.
       | 
       | 1) Anyone try Backblaze for photo backups? Is it worth trying?
       | 
       | 2) Why is immich photo and video only?
       | 
       | 3) Why docker? I miss the days of just files and scripts on any
       | host.
        
         | sib wrote:
         | >> 1) Anyone try Backblaze for photo backups? Is it worth
         | trying?
         | 
         | Yes, happy customer for many years. Restored ~2GB of photos
         | when a MacBook Pro motherboard completely died about 18 months
         | ago.
        
         | Saris wrote:
         | 1) It's storage with an S3 API, so should work fine, you just
         | have to figure out how to manage and view the backups on your
         | own.
         | 
         | 2) It's a replacement for google photos.
         | 
         | 3) Ease of use and flexibility, you can deploy a docker compose
         | file easily on any host or distro without needing to deal with
         | dependencies or OS specific glitches.
        
       | wunderland wrote:
       | Has anyone tried setting this up on a raspberry pi 4?
        
         | vinnymac wrote:
         | If you search the github page for the project, many have
         | reported using a raspberry pi.
         | 
         | For example, here is an issue where a raspberry pi 4 is used.
         | https://github.com/immich-app/immich/issues/611
        
       | Saris wrote:
       | I've been using this for a few weeks, it's quite nice.
       | Automatically backs up my phone photos, and I also imported a
       | huge folder of existing photos on my NAS.
        
       | netsharc wrote:
       | I guess the Github description/HN title is incomplete, it's
       | curious that it's saying it's a backup solution, but what is
       | visible is an web-based photo browser... yeah yeah I get it, just
       | like Google Photos (i.e. App-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named according to
       | the docs[1]), the web viewer is part of the package...
       | 
       | I guess it needs a better description, IMO a project with several
       | big components (web, mobile, backend) sells itself short being
       | named just "backup solution".
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       | [1] https://immich.app/docs/overview/introduction
        
         | Saris wrote:
         | It is a backup solution, the mobile app automatically backs up
         | photos as you take them.
        
       | andirk wrote:
       | Real question: is this easier and more reliable than emailing to
       | myself for the past 20 years?
        
         | kwhitefoot wrote:
         | Or using Syncthing?
        
       | cozzyd wrote:
       | 4+ GB of ram required?
        
         | Saris wrote:
         | Due to machine learning / face recognition.
        
       | hexadec wrote:
       | This looks incredible with the local search and context
       | awareness. Curious if there is a comparison to other tools like
       | photoprism about the advantages of Immich
        
       | jsight wrote:
       | What advantage does this have over nextcloud?
        
         | jcul wrote:
         | I haven't used this, but it seems it has AI photo recognition
         | stuff.
         | 
         | So you can search for "fish" for example and it will show
         | photos of fish.
         | 
         | And apparently it has facial recognition, so you can find
         | photos of a specific person by name.
         | 
         | These are killer features of Google photos for me, so it is
         | exciting to see them in a self hosted, open source offering.
         | 
         | There is a demo linked on the GitHub page that I checked out:
         | 
         | https://demo.immich.app/
        
           | sn0n wrote:
           | Nextcloud has face recognition iirc as well.
        
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