[HN Gopher] Mark Zuckerberg: "We're moving very slowly" (2012)
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Mark Zuckerberg: "We're moving very slowly" (2012)
Author : mfiguiere
Score : 22 points
Date : 2023-07-09 20:13 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.threads.net)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.threads.net)
| nkuttler wrote:
| Opened in Firefox, nothing (presuambly adblock), openened in
| chrome, HTTP 429. Haha.
| yodsanklai wrote:
| Call me stupid, but what's the message there?
| quadcore wrote:
| He's pressuring for results with an external example. That way,
| he gets less of "we cant do that".
| bo-tao wrote:
| Copying is good, it has worked for the chinese, we should start
| copying to move faster
| troupo wrote:
| While people are complaining about how to see the emails...
| Zuckerberg is right, and in 10 years since Facebook (or anyone
| else) has done nothing to address the problem. Or to build
| similar products.
|
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| Some quotes:
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| In China there is this strong culture of cloning things quickly
| and building lots of different products instead of just focusing
| on one thing at a time. This allows them to plant lots of seeds,
| and although it yields lower quality products in the short term
| as they're cloning and the markets are growing quickly...
|
| They (Renren) They also have more features than us, including:
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| They have built their own version of Pinterest. In addition to
| your own timeline, you can have board pages that people can
| follow. They are tightly integrated into their NF.
|
| They have built their own version of Tumblr. Same deal as with
| their version of Pinterest.
|
| They have built their own standalone messenger app, where one key
| feature is using it like a walkie talkie -- basically like Voxer.
| Apparently Tencent QQ has also released a Voxer-like app which is
| really blowing up in China.
|
| Renren has also built their own games and they have 6 of the top
| 10 Chinese games in the iOS app store.
|
| They have also built out a full music product where they have
| licensed all the music in China themselves.
|
| They have done some innovative things with commenting, like
| enabling people to easily fork comment threads to turn them into
| separate threads if they want.
| gardenhedge wrote:
| Clicking the logo just toggles dark and light mode. Lol which
| designer thought of that?
| red2awn wrote:
| Probably cloned from China.
| mongol wrote:
| First time I visited Threads. I thought it was only available
| using an app and outside EU?
| yodsanklai wrote:
| this is the web version, readonly
| latchkey wrote:
| The mention of Voxer is interesting.
|
| https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/22/meta-pay-walkie-talkie-app...
|
| https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-loses-bid-toss-175-m...
| FunnyLookinHat wrote:
| 429... Hilarious.
| f6v wrote:
| I get this feeling there's a perceived opportunity of perpetual
| innovation in social media space. I don't want to say "everything
| that can be invented has already been invented". But I don't
| think that underlying technology and society has changed so much
| there's going to be a thing that's going to rival twitter or fb
| in the next couple years.
| notatoad wrote:
| > everything that can be invented has already been invented
|
| From a technology perspective I think this is broadly correct -
| these are essentially just crud apps, there's nothing new.
|
| But in addition to being technology products, these apps are
| entertainment products. And as long as people have the capacity
| to get bored, there will be continued opportunity to innovate
| on the entertainment experience. It doesn't even have to be
| novel, just recycle some app ideas from ten years ago. I'm sure
| vine will be back soon.
| yodsanklai wrote:
| I'm not so sure. Technology is one thing, but finding the right
| format for social networks may take many iterations. I find
| Twitter to be extremely toxic for instance, but there's some
| value to it. There must be a way to improve this initial idea.
| Keep the good, and minimize trolls and hate speech, and
| encourage people to stay courteous. Same thing for Facebook.
| [deleted]
| manojlds wrote:
| "there are no original problems" in this domain is the crux of it
| with Threads and Elon calling it a copy.
| [deleted]
| Barrin92 wrote:
| Unless Elon thinks he invented the solar panel, the electric
| motor and the rocket he might as well complain about himself.
| All entrepreneurial activity is taking something that exists
| and making it cheaper, nothing wrong with it.
|
| Original creations are, by their very definition, spontaneous
| and discontinuous, if you could plan them they wouldn't be
| original. If there was a method to originality you could copy
| it, therefore everything truly original is by necessity
| accidental. The entire debate about copying is silly.
| [deleted]
| davidgerard wrote:
| this is not viewable on the web
| yoavm wrote:
| Works fine in Firefox for Android.
| [deleted]
| ptrrrrrrppr wrote:
| mirror anyone? hangs loading forever
| gouggoug wrote:
| If you're using firefox with facebook containers you need to
| allow threads.net to run in the facebook container.
| ocal5 wrote:
| https://archive.is/MAj1e
| mkl95 wrote:
| The site's layout is all over the place. I haven't used Twitter
| for a while, but I don't remember it being that confusing.
| partiallypro wrote:
| Threads doesn't have a public web interface yet; you can only
| share Threads and see just that. I'm sure that will change in
| the near future, but I imagine that is why you're confused.
| umanwizard wrote:
| Non-Threads link: https://www.techemails.com/p/mark-zuckerberg-
| facebook-move-f...
| 10g1k wrote:
| Zuckerberg stole facebook from his college friends. He was taken
| to court over it, and settled.
|
| His metaverse VR world was a lame copy of Second Life.
|
| Now he's done a copy/paste of twitter.
|
| The guy has never had an original thought in his life.
| RamblingCTO wrote:
| https://twitter.com/TechEmails/status/1550168842378170368
| carlossouza wrote:
| Curiously, Facebook announced buying Instagram a few weeks after
| this email.
|
| And Instagram, under Facebook's leadership, apparently adopted
| Renren's "strong culture of cloning things" to the letter: first
| targeting Snapchat (2015-16), and now targeting Twitter...
|
| Or as someone replied below: > "I personally am pretty in favor
| of this approach in life generally... I would love to be far more
| aggressive and nimble in copying competitors at the interface /
| last mile level"
| PartiallyTyped wrote:
| Even here, Meta is famous for moving very fast compared to rest
| of FAANG outside Netflix.
| DueDilligence wrote:
| [dead]
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