[HN Gopher] Ask HN: When were flagged submissions/comments added...
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Ask HN: When were flagged submissions/comments added to the profile
page?
I noticed it just now in my status page. I'm fairly convinced it
wasn't there last time I viewed it. It's a useful addition, if
only to check occasionally that I haven't mistakenly flagged a
comment or a submission.
Author : olvy0
Score : 75 points
Date : 2023-07-09 18:56 UTC (4 hours ago)
| scandox wrote:
| Well I just found out that somehow over the years I had flagged
| 30+ totally innocuous items. So I've unflagged them all. They
| were more like things I would have been interested in rather than
| upset by. So I guess I was flagging instead of favoriting or some
| such madness.
| Brian_K_White wrote:
| Why does my own show 2 flagged submissions when I did not submit
| either of those things?
|
| Is it saying that I flagged them?
|
| edit, I see the unflag links now, which resolves that.
| throwanem wrote:
| It was added on Wednesday, about three weeks after I emailed to
| ask for some amelioration of my occasional clumsiness with phone
| screens leading to a high rate of erroneously flagged stories.
|
| I didn't really go in with an expectation, certainly not for that
| kind of amazing responsiveness and turnaround time. Thanks, dang!
| doubled112 wrote:
| I was also shocked to see I had flagged quite a few articles,
| likely because of my own fat fingers.
| throwanem wrote:
| I knew I was doing it, I just hated that I couldn't fix it
| myself!
|
| It also seems like flagging an article now no longer hides
| it, which is extra great since the unflag link is right there
| without even needing to visit the profile to undo a mistap.
| gota wrote:
| Oh my god, I have flagged dozens. None on purpose.
|
| I have just unflagged all of them, hopefully It helps
| pjot wrote:
| Same here. I use the favorite button a lot and that it is
| next to flag, I assume this is most likely what's happened
| dageshi wrote:
| Me too, like 20+ over the years. I had no clue I was
| misclicking. Some kind of confirmation would be a real good
| idea!
| sshine wrote:
| On mobile, up/down voting is super close.
|
| I probably downvoted 20% of the time I tried to upvote
| until I realized I need to pinch-zoom super close and pay
| attention to the "on clicked" look of the link for the
| few milliseconds it appears.
|
| Those arrows are not mobile friendly.
| throwanem wrote:
| Judging by the reaction in this thread, I feel like it
| might noticeably lower the noise floor on the moderation
| queue!
| c0brac0bra wrote:
| Same here. I assumed flagging was something that required a
| certain amount of reputation. I've never even purposefully
| tried to see _how_ to flag something, and I have 4
| submissions flagged.
| xupybd wrote:
| I've flagged articles I don't recognize. I'm not sure how.
| There might need to be a UX change here.
| ehPReth wrote:
| me too! some of them looked kind of interesting too, probably
| just hit the wrong thing on mobile I guess?
|
| there was some stuff I definitely meant to flag like spam or
| whatever but definitely some stuff that was not supposed to
| be
| sdflhasjd wrote:
| If it's any consolation, the page doesn't show flagged
| submissions that ended up being removed, so you're likely
| only going to see stuff you've accidentally flagged.
|
| Flagging could do with a confirmation prompt perhaps.
| gjulianm wrote:
| It does show removed flagged submissions if you have
| "showdead" enabled in your profile.
| sdflhasjd wrote:
| Does that still show really old removed items though?
| Some items I remember deliberately flagging don't show in
| the list.
| SllX wrote:
| I used to think I caught accidental flags very well... I no
| longer believe that after reviewing my list of flagged
| submissions. I just unflagged anything I didn't think was worth
| flagging in the first place but some of these are years old.
| napsterbr wrote:
| Heh, same here, although I always held the thought "well, if
| I did not do such a good job at detecting accidental clicks,
| I'd never know about it". Now I do!
| leros wrote:
| Huh. Apparently I've flagged and voted lots of stuff by
| accident.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| Hmm, I have flagged like 15-20 submissions, maybe 3
| intentionally... A confirm dialog may help.
| matsemann wrote:
| My 9-10 pages of flagged _comments_ seem mostly good, almost
| all of them are dead and things I think I intentionally
| flagged.
|
| My 3 pages of flagged _submissions_ seems a bit more random.
| Perhaps I don 't remember the reason just skimming through,
| but some of them are certainly accidental.
| kelnos wrote:
| My list of flagged submissions is more or less like yours.
| I think the reason is that I flag things that I don't want
| to see on HN (not just that I don't care about them, but
| that I think some topics or specific articles are
| harmful/toxic to a community), which is often contrary to
| what many other HN readers think. There's no downvote
| button on submissions, so there's no other way for me to
| give that signal.
|
| For comments, I usually only flag when people are
| egregiously violating site guidelines or are just being
| dicks in general, and I think most other potential flaggers
| often agree with my flags in those cases, and pile on. If I
| just think that a comment doesn't add anything substantive,
| I'll merely downvote.
|
| I'll also downvote if I strongly disagree with someone's
| position, after reading an older post on HN from pg saying
| that's an accepted use for downvotes[0]. I'm still somewhat
| torn on this, as I'm not sure a nearly 15-year-old post on
| policy (from someone who seems not to be much involved with
| HN these days) should still be considered authoritative, as
| community norms change over time. I also don't love that
| using downvotes to express disagreement also has the effect
| of hiding contrary opinions, which can often hold a lot of
| value. So I try to reserve my disagreement downvotes for
| cases where I believe I have evidence the poster is
| objectively wrong about what they're saying.
|
| [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658691
| sshine wrote:
| I had 4 out of 4 accidental flagged submissions.
| xoa wrote:
| > _A confirm dialog may help._
|
| I'm not really a fan of dialogs in flow if it can be avoided,
| at least not without trying other indicators first, but I
| would agree some UX experimentation might be worthwhile. Like
| rather then have it simply go to "unflag", a two letter
| difference purely in gray, also have it turn bold/bright red
| for an hour? At least as an option? I just tried playing with
| the CSS and flagging/unflagging your post, and setting
| [unflag] to color:red;font-weight:bold makes a real
| difference without being obnoxious.
| kelnos wrote:
| Another option would be to add more statuses. When a
| comment gets enough flags, it gets "[flagged]" added to the
| top of it. Perhaps something like "[you flagged]" could
| help.
| nmstoker wrote:
| I suppose you could change further aspects of the current
| behaviour, but the issue with that idea is that the
| flagged items disappear currently, so you wouldn't get to
| see the "[you flagged]" entry, unless you got to the
| comments page for it via some other means (eg jumping to
| it from your browser history)
| codetrotter wrote:
| I intentionally flag posts sometimes.
|
| I think a free-form text input for reason would be nice. No
| one even has to read the reason most of the time.
|
| Providing a reason for flagging serves multiple purposes:
|
| - makes it so that you don't accidentally flag something when
| you don't mean to
|
| - discourages overly aggressive flagging
|
| - in some cases the reason for flagging might be more subtle.
| So casual review of flagged posts by mods might miss the
| subtle reason it is being flagged by people. If we explicitly
| state the reason, it can help mods see why a post is being
| flagged by people in such situations
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| I would like the ability to disable flagging for my account.
| Too easy to accidentally flag when scrolling. Or perhaps only
| offer flagging when you're on a thread or viewing an
| individual comment.
| cube2222 wrote:
| I occasionally accidentally flag and unflag... I didn't expect
| to find 30 accidental flags there.
|
| I think it'd be great for the flag button to show a
| confirmation popup before actually flagging.
| userbinator wrote:
| I checked again and have a bunch of flagged submissions, mostly
| deliberate, but there were certainly some accidental ones in
| there. Great feature indeed.
| ratg13 wrote:
| Tangentially related .. can we bring back average karma score or
| whatever it was?
|
| I really felt like it was a good tool to help curb people from
| posting useless throwaway comments.
|
| Anyone know why this was removed?
| gumby wrote:
| Wow, looks like I flagged several posts ver the years, 100% by
| accident.
| dragontamer wrote:
| I just checked my flags.
|
| Everything earlier than 2017 or so was straight up a mistake. I
| didn't know what "flag" did, so I must have clicked it to
| experiment back then and just never realized I kept the flag this
| whole time. I just undid those flags.
|
| There were 3 or 4 submissions I actually flagged for real that
| I'll keep the flag on. A bunch of comments that I've flagged.
|
| ----------
|
| This seems like a good feature, in practice, I seem to have a
| fair number of mistaken flags (albeit from earlier before I knew
| what the feature did). But even today I've got a few misclicks,
| perfectly normal topics I must have accidentally hit the "flag"
| button on that I really shouldn't have.
| pmontra wrote:
| I'd like a setting to disable flagging. I saw that I accidentally
| flagged some submissions and unflagged then now. I probably
| upvoted many of them and flagged them instead of tapping the link
| on my phone.
|
| I'm always surprised when I see some submission flagged on
| purpose by others. They are often interesting stuff. I upvoted
| and commented some of them.
| johtso wrote:
| All 10 on my flagged posts were accidents. Think this probably
| highlights a UX issue and the need for an "are you sure?" popup.
| kelnos wrote:
| I think a popup would be annoying and get in the way. A better
| option might be to highlight in some way (perhaps via a change
| in text color) items that you have flagged, so you can easily
| see that you may have made a mistake.
| komadori wrote:
| Ditto I have accidently flagged 12 submissions without noticing
| (but no comments). This is in addition to the many times where
| I've noticed an accidental flagging and immediately unflagged
| it. In my case, it's entirely a consequence of reading HN on a
| phone.
| rmellow wrote:
| On mobile it's too easy to accidentally click Flag.
|
| I checked my profile and noticed a handful of accidental Flags
| this year alone.
|
| Perhaps a confirmation dialog would solve it.
| ed25519FUUU wrote:
| Wow great feature. Apparently I accidentally hit the "flag"
| button all of the time because every one of my flagged posts was
| an accident. Now I get to go through and unflag them all. Sorry
| about that whoever made the post!
| amccloud wrote:
| Thanks for the tip. Every flag for me was accidental.
| lumpa wrote:
| Nice to see it added, quite a lot of people found out they had
| fat finger flagged some content when I told HN about these (then)
| hidden pages: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30253799
|
| Edit: as stated in that post, you can also see your vouched items
| by accessing https://news.ycombinator.com/vouched
| [deleted]
| wodenokoto wrote:
| Apparently I've flagged about 100 submissions since 2015, and I'd
| wager none were intentional.
|
| Apologies to posters that didn't get the complete chance their
| submissions deserved.
| eimrine wrote:
| Sometimes my comments get flagged, that is always a good lesson
| on what is possible to say in some abroad communities. In some
| areas of possible opinions I do not even receive a single
| downvote, but a flag and it is always instant. I have no opinion
| about the topic, just a little observation.
| howard941 wrote:
| Happy to see the link to Hiddens. Sometimes I hide the wrong one
| and there was no way out.
| skilled wrote:
| I have like 200+ flags and every single one has been intentional.
| I am not sure the accidental excuse applies here. You either flag
| something or you don't.
| scandox wrote:
| It's not an excuse. It's a fact. Just read this thread.
| Thousands of flags of totally innocuous material by accident by
| scores of users. Including myself. Or maybe you think I
| subliminally love flagging articles concerning improvements to
| the Python programming language...Which would be worrying.
| antoineMoPa wrote:
| It's surprisingly easy to flag something by mistake while
| scrolling & browsing HN on iphone.
| Jtsummers wrote:
| Probably on Android as well. The "flag" link is right under
| my thumb as I scroll through the page.
| yongjik wrote:
| I flagged the parent. Yes, intentionally.
| LinuxBender wrote:
| _When were flagged submissions /comments added to the profile
| page?_
|
| Not sure but here [1] are some of the other URL's on HN one could
| bookmark.
|
| [1] - https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-
| undocumented#public... [not my repo]
| johnchristopher wrote:
| Jeez, I knew I sometimes misclicked but I have to do something
| about it.
| IAmLiterallyAB wrote:
| I had 10, all of which were accidental. It's so easy to
| accidentally hit flag with this UI
| mistrial9 wrote:
| the list clearly includes actions from long ago, so this data was
| recorded, just not visible to the account holder
|
| in that sense, it is somehow a benefit, to see more of what is
| tracked behind the scenes. It seems obvious that these simple
| values are easily used make profiles of profiles, in aggregate.
| code_duck wrote:
| Glad to hear I wasn't the only one accidentally flagging
| submissions! I had about 20 on my list going back to 2011 and
| only 1-2 were legitimately flag-worthy. Far fewer comments, only
| 4, and of those only 1 was by error. However my account can still
| flag submissions, but I noticed recently I don't have the ability
| to flag comments for whatever reason.
| mschuster91 wrote:
| Gotta be in the last 14 days. Wonder what the use is though, when
| looking at my reports I see a couple spam flags and a dozen
| utterly vile and down-greyed comments. Not sure why anyone would
| want to see what they have reported...
| Kiro wrote:
| I often accidentally flag something (on mobile) and this helps
| me undo that.
| [deleted]
| idlewords wrote:
| Flag 'em all; let dang sort them out.
| phkahler wrote:
| I had no idea I ever flagged a submission.
| faizshah wrote:
| @dang can we add more friction to the flag thing? Maybe just a
| yes/no after.
| O1111OOO wrote:
| When I saw this post, I thought the new flagging links were added
| to help track biases from users. For example, there might be
| users on this platform that will flag anything that might be
| critical of their fav tech company or political ideology.
|
| I did not expect to see so many comments (nearly all of them, ~2
| hours into this post) referring to accidental flagging.
|
| Whatever the reasons, I like the new links.
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