[HN Gopher] DARPA Seeks to Shield Blood from Fungal and Bacteria...
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       DARPA Seeks to Shield Blood from Fungal and Bacterial Pathogens
        
       Author : JPLeRouzic
       Score  : 62 points
       Date   : 2023-07-07 19:03 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | neodypsis wrote:
       | Hopefully this stimulates further research into cocodriles'
       | blood. They already have something similar to what DARPA is
       | looking for, if I recall correctly.
        
       | AftHurrahWinch wrote:
       | There's the theory that a significant reason why mammals
       | superseded reptiles after the Cretaceous-Tertiary (K-T) mass-
       | extinction event is because the cooler, darker planet prevented
       | reptiles from sunning themselves to clear fungal infections. One
       | of the major reasons cold-blooded animals bask on warm rocks in
       | the sun is to artificially induce a 'fever' to raise their body
       | temperature high enough to break down proteins in fungal
       | infections. Warm-blooded mammals had the ability to do that
       | naturally, even during the very long winter after the K-T event.
       | [0]
       | 
       | Yet, increasing global temperatures have been naturally selecting
       | fungi which can survive at higher temperatures... and the average
       | human body temperature has been decreasing in the developed world
       | [1].
       | 
       | [0]:
       | https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/j...
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       | [1]: https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/01/human-body-
       | te...
        
       | cdiamand wrote:
       | Has anyone here ever done any work at DARPA, and if so how was
       | the experience?
       | 
       | Also, I'm assuming you need some kind of background related to
       | the projects you apply to work on right?
        
         | zzz95 wrote:
         | Assuming that you mean working on cool research. You can
         | interview and come in as a DARPA Program manager where you need
         | to bring in a grand vision and would be in charge of
         | revolutionizing a field(s). But what is it that you would do
         | day to day? A DARPA PM doesn't do actual research but instead
         | has access to the network of the best minds in research and
         | uses them to shape a multi-million 5 yr 'program' and arrange
         | for funding and transition paths to DoD and private industry. A
         | PM's tenure is 5 yrs, so most PMs come in with a vision, start
         | 2-5 programs, inherit other programs and then transition out.
         | 
         | You can always look at the latest programs -
         | https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/opportunities
         | 
         | The people doing the actual research are independent research
         | labs, universities, and small business. These are a combination
         | of scientists and engineers publishing papers and taking the
         | technology from papers to the field.
        
         | AustinDev wrote:
         | I know a fair amount about this and will happily answer
         | additional questions. There are two main ways to work for
         | DARPA. Bid on contracts when they are opened up for public bid.
         | The other way is to work at DARPA to do this you need an
         | incredibly unique idea that solves a particular office
         | director's mandate for their tenure then you apply as a program
         | manager. Most program managers are academics with unique ideas
         | to solve the needs of that particular office head. You can only
         | work as a program manager for a certain amount of time, I
         | believe two years, before you have to rotate out.
         | 
         | If you work as a contractor on a DARPA program, you generally
         | get to keep all IP rights. I've used these programs to fund
         | companies before.
        
         | PNewling wrote:
         | Like most government agencies I assume most of the work is done
         | by some form of defence contractor.
         | 
         | That being said, I'd like to hear stories from anyone who has
         | worked there as well.
        
           | lolsowrong wrote:
           | Yes. Most of the work is not done in the DARPA building.
           | Generally federal contractor sites. The daily work in the
           | building is phone calls, reviewing papers, email, building
           | powerpoint slides, and trying to come up with the next
           | program. In my time, most PMs managed between 3 and 5
           | programs, some of their own creation, and some inherited from
           | outgoing PMs (term limit + federal contracting timelines
           | means generally the originating PM is not around to see a
           | program through to its conclusion)
        
           | jvanderbot wrote:
           | I've never worked at DARPA, but yeah, they are a funding
           | agency mostly so there's director-types who set research
           | directions and create grant opportunities, admin-types who
           | push money around and track status, and most the work is done
           | by those who submit successful proposals. I've had a couple
           | smallish tasks for DARPA while I was at a gov lab.
           | 
           | They have a nice model. The program managers (those who set
           | research directions) are fixed-term IIRC, so they have very
           | little incentive to politic, and instead can focus on seeing
           | their pet program through to completion in the given time /
           | funding.
           | 
           | One of their main "jobs" (aside from above), is to be an
           | advocate for emerging tech among the military and civilian
           | industrial partners to make sure it actually "becomes
           | something".
           | 
           | To work at DARPA in this capacity usually requires a _lot_ of
           | successful R &D program management experience and some sense
           | of grand vision. To work in a lesser, administrative
           | capacity, including interacting with research partners,
           | requires just a tad less, but on the average they've been
           | exceptional, intelligent, and responsive partners for all the
           | work we've done for them.
        
             | lolsowrong wrote:
             | Program Managers are fixed term - up to 3 2 year terms
             | (though Director Tompkins generally doesn't like PMs to be
             | around longer than 4 years - see section 1101 of the Strom
             | Thurmond NDAA for more details about the hiring authority).
             | 
             | I don't know about the admin vs director types split you're
             | talking about (at least in the PM ranks). Office directors
             | generally provided top cover and some very sweeping
             | research directions, but as a PM it was your job to come up
             | with research programs that were roughly compatible,
             | convince the office director it was, and then manage the
             | technical execution with the performers and doing dog and
             | pony shows when the pentagon called.
        
           | archgoon wrote:
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       | darkclouds wrote:
       | > preventive treatments for warfighters who suffer trauma from
       | gunshot or blast wounds, or burns
       | 
       | Re the burns, thats why the muscles are catabolised quickly, the
       | creatine in muscle becomes creatinine which has Gram + & -
       | antibiotic properties.
       | 
       | Taurine, is a form of sulfonic acid, and sulfonic acid are
       | precursors to sulfonamides, which were the first anti bacterial
       | drugs, developed by a German scientist, whose work ironically
       | helped save the lives of Winston Churchill and Roosevelts son
       | [1].
       | 
       | Just two examples of many of the chemicals we can find in our
       | diet which can have extremely useful properties for our health.
       | 
       | https://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/sulfanilamide2/sulfanilamide...
        
         | rudyfink wrote:
         | Huh, I did not know they were related to sulfonamides like
         | that. If you (or someone else) might like a book that goes into
         | the history of sulfonamides, I'd recommend "The Demon Under The
         | Microscope" by Hager (https://www.amazon.com/Demon-Under-
         | Microscope-Battlefield-Ho...). It was an interesting read.
        
       | arthurwu wrote:
       | Seeing SHIELD in a government press release, my first thought was
       | Nick Fury, but not a blood roomba :)
        
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