[HN Gopher] Android phone hits 24GB of RAM, as much as a 13-inch...
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Android phone hits 24GB of RAM, as much as a 13-inch MacBook Pro
Author : LinuxBender
Score : 17 points
Date : 2023-07-06 19:27 UTC (3 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
| scohesc wrote:
| Dang, they have a tiny blower fan inside that spins at 20k RPM.
| That would be annoying spinning at high speeds.
|
| Very impressive they're able to cram that much performance into
| an Android handheld, but part of me wishes Microsoft would put
| more research/dev time into Windows on Arm, or Apple allowing you
| to install their OS onto it.
|
| Android just seems so limiting when you have that much memory.
| The OS probably can't even take advantage of it all.
| dusted wrote:
| Android runs on Linux, so it can waste it on bloated apps just
| fine.
| pcurve wrote:
| wonder if it's possible to offer an attachable heatsink in a
| shame of extended battery or case. That way, there's no fan /
| dust to worry about.
| Dudester230602 wrote:
| Why compare it to a niche model of a niche laptop? I guess the
| phone is niche too.
| brucethemoose2 wrote:
| Thats _barely_ enough for LLaMA 33b.
|
| Q3_K_S 33b fits on my 16GB laptop + 6GB GPU (so 22GB minus some
| overhead from the split + linux), but its extremely tight and
| only works up to ~800 context.
| pxmpxm wrote:
| Gaming _phone_ is a thing?
| expertentipp wrote:
| The bloated specs look like typical scam product description from
| ebay or AliExpress. I can only image low quality finish and bet
| it will make noises when grabbing more firmly.
| silisili wrote:
| Nubia is a subsidiary of ZTE, seemingly more focused on gaming.
| Not exactly Apple quality, but far above the random fly-by-
| nights on AliExpress.
| wkdneidbwf wrote:
| why on earth does my phone need 24gb of ram?
| gumballindie wrote:
| Why on earth does a macbook (pro nonetheless) have as little
| ram as a phone?
| justsomehnguy wrote:
| I was quite amused hearing how people (probably the same who
| singed praises) ditched the first gen M1s with 8Gb, because
| 'not enough memory', merely a year later.
| tiltowait wrote:
| The first gen went up to 16GB, so anyone buying 8GB was
| just price-chasing.
| etempleton wrote:
| I do find it a bit odd they even offer the 8GB version.
| It truly does not feel like enough. 16 GB feels like it
| should be the entry point for MacOS.
| justsomehnguy wrote:
| > just price-chasing
|
| This is not the problem. You can find comments here how
| people literally said what 'it were running better than
| x86 Macs with 16+GBs'.
|
| ADD: and 'nobody needs more than 8GB, because it works so
| fine'. Just to clarify.
| mwint wrote:
| I have one, and it did/does. Those statements were not
| untrue.
|
| Idk if it swaps fast or what, and I don't care.
| stu2b50 wrote:
| It's not like they ditched them for x86 devices. If people
| said that 8GB M1s were more capable than their x86
| machines, it can be logically consistent with them going
| for even more power as more M* series chips released.
| etempleton wrote:
| Only the Air and 13" Pro (which is a glorified Air with a
| fan) cap at 24 GBs. The 14 and 16" Pro models cap at 96 GB.
| The 13 inch is a bit of a lame duck product that is likely to
| be phased out at some point or otherwise be replaced, so
| while the headline is factually true it is not really
| indicative of the situation.
|
| I will also say, Apple devices across the board are
| significantly better at memory management than both Android
| and Windows. Where on a Windows machine I feel I need 32 GBs,
| 16 GBs feels adequate on MacOS. And my understanding is the
| situation is similar between iOS and Android.
| LASR wrote:
| Without starting a flame war, can we have a proper discussion on
| Android and iOS memory management?
|
| It seems like iOS and macOS do more with less ram. Why is that?
|
| My outdated view on this is that iOS apps are native vs Android
| that runs JVM apps. Is that even true still?
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